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Joe_Biden posted...

uh, yeah it is

Oh look at that. I just read the article in the first post, which lacked that. Yeah, that's pretty terrible. I understand where it's coming from, given that that's exactly what Israel is doing to Palestine, but terrible nonetheless. Reciprocal genocide doesn't help anyone.

Of course, there's still a very important distinction between being anti-Israel and anti-Semetic, which the terribleness of that tweet doesn't change.

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agesboy posted...

oh noooooooo companies are trying to be inclusive whatever will we do

Pretty much. Yeah, it's just marketing and being cynical about that isn't unreasonable, but at the end of the day, it's all something that will contribute to making culture better. Be cynical enough to not let it sway your buying practices or stop holding companies accountable for more directly hurting the populations they claim to be supporting, but don't criticize the message of inclusivity itself.

IronBornCorps posted...

It's to recognize that those black and brown members are among the most marginalized, and historically have not been recognized as the catalyst for rights and pioneers they were.

Also this. POC were disproportionately represented in Stonewall and other early steps toward LGBTQ rights, yet Pride has become quite overwhelmingly white in recent years. Making efforts to recognize that history and include non-white folks in it is quite warranted.

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Zeus posted...

defending a post where she literally uses the term "Zionist scum"

[Citation needed]

That's very much not in any of the quotes that link covers.

Zeus posted...

It makes pretty clear where she stands regarding the Jewish people,

Why are you equivocating Zionism with Judaism?

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pionear posted...

Ok, how many did you rub one out to her...?

adjl posted...

She [...] was really never particularly remarkable

Try to keep up. I have no particular opinions on her. I'm not even sure I've ever actually seen her videos. You're being told that your joke is lame because your joke was lame, not because people feel they need to defend Khalifa from a joke that doesn't even attack her (like I said).

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Zeus posted...

And I find using politics to screen friends incredibly stupid, considering that's pretty minor compared to other issues.

That really depends on the politics. For some people, "minor politics" are a literal matter of life and death. To dismiss all politics as being minor issues is a privilege only afforded to those for whom the status quo works.

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GEKGanon posted...

Oh, well that's just lazy.

I'd call it "efficient." There's no value in the distinction, so why perpetuate it? English has enough redundancy already.

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GEKGanon posted...

By definition, acronyms have to be pronouncable.

acronym
/akrnim/

noun

1. an abbreviation formed from the initial letters of other words and pronounced as a word (e.g. ASCII, NASA ).

Something that isn't pronounceable isn't an acronym, it is just an abbreviation, likely an initialism.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/initialism

What is the difference between the words acronym and initialism?
Acronym is a fairly recent word, dating from the 1940s, although acronyms existed long before we gave them that name. The term was preceded in English by the word initialism, meaning an abbreviation formed from the initial letters of a phrase, and which has been in use since the late 19th century.
Some people feel strongly that acronym should only be used for terms like NATO, which is pronounced as a single word, and that initialism should be used if the individual letters are all pronounced distinctly, as with FBI. Our research shows that acronym is commonly used to refer to both types of abbreviations.

There was a time when the distinction was considered meaningful, but the language has moved beyond that because it's largely pointless.

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A taco sitting on top of another taco.

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GEKGanon posted...

It isn't actually even an acronym.

Acronyms are pronounceable words formed from the first letter of each word

Acronyms don't have to be pronounceable. For PR purposes, it's usually good idea to try to make them that way, since it makes them easier to remember, but the only defining criterion is that they're made up of some subset of the first letters of the constituent words. FBI is no less of an acronym than FAQ.

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The Nazi gas chambers weren't abhorrent because of the gas used, they were abhorrent because they were used to perpetrate genocide. If we've already accepted that the death penalty is okay (which there's ample room to debate, but for the purposes of this discussion that's a reasonable premise to start from), I don't see that using gas to carry it out is particularly worse than any other method, unless it's slower and/or more painful than alternatives.

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EclairReturns posted...

If that's the case, then I am curious about what the point of adding the plus-sign was.

Far as I can tell, the same reason, people have just forgotten that Q is "other." If anything, Q should just have been moved to the end.

GEKGanon posted...

Nobody is upset, and it isn't relevant anyway, because the LGBTQABCDEFGXYZ community has added so many letters, nobody is even excluded from it. At this point, we're just talking about the whole of society, or the general public. lol

It's not at that point, since it does still all fall under the umbrella of atypical sexual orientations and gender identities/expressions (which axiomatically excludes typical ones) and the movement still works toward improving acceptance specifically for that group, but it does make the name a lot more cumbersome. The point of acronyms is to be succinct. Making sure that the group's acronym explicitly reflects every possible component of the group is very much at odds with that goal.

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That joke doesn't attack her in any way, so pointing out that it was a lame joke doesn't defend her in any way. They're just attacking you for making a lame joke, dude.

InfernalFive posted...

Crazy how she was around for like not even half a year and ended up being so popular.

That was mostly a consequence of the strong negative reaction from the Arab world over how flagrantly she disrespected their traditions (particularly wearing a hijab in at least one video). They got angry, media covered the anger, everyone hearing about her in the media looked her up, overnight success. She retired very quickly and was really never particularly remarkable, but the controversy attracted enough attention to make her very well-known. And now any time she tries to do something else people get uppity that a former porn actress would dare try to have a life after porn (though it can very easily also be said that she is herself trying to capitalize on her porn-borne notoriety to attract extra attention to whatever she's doing).

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You're like 4-5 years behind on realizing this. It seems a little redundant to me, given that "queer" was added as the general-purpose "other" option (since it basically means "any form of sexual/gender non-conformity not otherwise specified"), but there's room to defend specifically recognizing more significant subgroups within that.

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Zeus posted...

anti-Semitic tweets like that.

Being critical of Israel as a country isn't being hateful of Jewish people. If anything, characterizing any criticism of Israel as anti-Semitism is why this whole situation has become such a mess, since people are deathly afraid of falling into such territory after that whole business with the Holocaust. There is ample room to criticize how Israel came into existence, which does not take away from nor is invalidated by the room that also exists to criticize Palestine's (and, more specifically, Hamas') conduct since then. Trying to dismiss it all as "anti-Semitism" is grossly oversimplifying the issue.

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Does this mean you don't think you can explain that?

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SunWuKung420 posted...

Another incorrect statement brought to you by adjl.

If you feel you can explain how that was actually a response to what I said and not a completely separate statement that was only tangentially related, you're quite welcome to try.

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Kanatteru posted...

i dont expect people to 100% agree with me on everything, but there are certain things i consider non-negotiable (mostly wrt LGBT rights and race)

Pretty much this. You can have all the differing views you want on the most efficient way to structure the tax system, but start insisting that people are undeserving of basic human rights because they're attracted to the "wrong" person, and we're going to have a problem.

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What makes you think they can't?

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SunWuKung420 posted...

Doing it yourself is Zen as fuck.

You're not very good at focusing, are you.

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I get my first dose on Friday, which was the earliest appointment I could get after they opened them up to my age bracket two weeks ago. Second will be in September.

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SunWuKung420 posted...

I'd just carry the AC up the stairs without hurting my back.

Ableism isn't very zen, Sunny.

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Between that hair and the fact that her face is identical in every single picture, I'm kinda scared.

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SunWuKung420 posted...

Yes, adjl, the name of the full body scanners used by the TSA are called Albert Einstein.

Just goes to show you can't judge a body scanner by its cover.

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SunWuKung420 posted...

My left bicep triggered that machine in the Orlando airport. I told the guy who had to check me that it was just the big guns I'm packing.

The name of that machine? Albert Einstein.

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Lokarin posted...

why do people always team up in the apocalypse? can't we all just get along... not not getting together?

Same reason people form societies in the not-apocalypsed world: You can make limited resources stretch a lot further by having certain individuals dedicating themselves to optimizing them, and that only works if they can trust that they won't suffer for neglecting their other needs while they optimize their one job (either because it's provided for them by some manner of formal communal construct, or because they know they can trade the fruits of their labours for what they need). A blacksmith can't eat a shovel, but a farmer can't grow food without one.

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ParanoidObsessive posted...

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SeinfeldIsUnfunny

Yes, exactly.

jiffdiff posted...

Seinfeld is still hilarious though and everyone who says that is wrong and should feel bad.

Honestly, Seinfeld never really clicked with me. It's got its share of great moments, certainly, so I can enjoy watching clips from it, but my general impression has always been that it's pretty dull outside of those, such that it's not one I've ever felt much drive to watch full episodes of. A good chunk of that, though, is probably due to the fact that I only reached an age where I could enjoy it in the early 2000's, well after it had exerted its influence and the industry had built considerably on it.

Muscles posted...

I'm pretty sure nothing I like was influenced by it at all seeing as I don't like any sitcoms that came after it

You think that a sitcom is only able to influence other sitcoms? You dramatically overestimate how isolated the different sectors of the entertainment industry are. Furthermore, I don't recall specifying that it was things you like that were influenced by it. If anything, it's pretty reasonable to infer that not liking subsequent sitcoms was at least partially because they felt unoriginal due to being too much like Friends.

You seem to be under the impression that your standards just changed spontaneously, or as part of an inevitable, natural process. That never happens. There's always some sort of reason for our tastes in entertainment, even if it's impossible to tie it down to a single, easily-identified cause. We are products of the complex interactions between our various experiences, many of which happen totally subconsciously.

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OhhhJa posted...

DIE CRY and HATE

This, on the other hand, seems like it would work better in the opposite direction.

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I bet PO didn't even cry when Dug was hiding under his porch because he loves him.

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SunWuKung420 posted...

Of course, adjl still acting like there's equivalency between a healthy substance people choose to consume and an unhealthy substance people have to work hard to avoid.

adjl posted...

So you keep saying, but your only reasoning for "SLS is bad" is "it's an irritant," which is equally true of capsaicin. Repeating yourself doesn't make your claim any more convincing.

Argue smarter, not harder.

SunWuKung420 posted...

He clearly knows little regarding how the safe limits of the dosage of SLS are reached in a single product but the combined value of its abundance in multiple products used multiple times daily pushes that value into the toxic range.

See, this is the start of a rational argument. To follow through, you need to cite those safe dosage limits as well as statistics on how people's typical exposure exceeds those limits and reports demonstrating actual effects from that excess.

Don't judge people for not knowing your argument for you. That just indicates that you suck at arguing, not that they've failed. If you truly believe you have the better-substantiated position, fight for it.

SunWuKung420 posted...

Also, an adaptive immune response producing antibodies without illness will always be better than a man-made, rushed to market, novel-type vaccine

Not only is this completely baseless and a flagrant application of the naturalistic fallacy (which is utterly devoid of any logical merit), it's also demonstrably false. Numerous diseases have been all but eradicated only because vaccines have been developed against them after natural immunity failed to control them for years. For Covid itself, it has been fairly consistently found that antibody production following infection (symptomatic or otherwise) hasn't been lasting as long as it has following vaccinations (which makes sense, given that vaccines contain adjuvants to promote a stronger, longer-lasting response, as well as most of them incorporating a second booster shot to keep it going).

Regardless of those facts, your initial point was that people who have developed immunity through asymptomatic infection don't need vaccines. As I said a while ago, they might be okay, but from a public health management perspective, that's not practical to rely on. It's vastly simpler to just vaccinate people regardless of their immunity status than to go through the hassle of testing their antibody production, especially where the vaccine will act as a booster shot to extend and strengthen the immunity. The only risk there is that they'll have two rounds of flu-like symptoms instead of one (since they'll already have an immune response for both shots, instead of just the second), which is hardly a major problem.

SunWuKung420 posted...

whose efficacy is still to be determined.

Their efficacies were determined before they made it to market. As I say to everyone who parrots this "untested" nonsense: the data's out there. If you don't trust the FDA's (or HC's, or any other country's health regulatory agency) assessment at face value, you can assess the data for yourself. Use that as the basis for your opinion, instead of pretending your uninformed gut reaction is worth sharing.

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SunWuKung420 posted...

Adlj, capsaicin is something healthy, people can choose to consume. SLS is something unhealthy, people have to choose to avoid.

So you keep saying, but your only reasoning for "SLS is bad" is "it's an irritant," which is equally true of capsaicin. Repeating yourself doesn't make your claim any more convincing. That requires you to provide actual data, detailed explanations, information on safe dosage and how typical consumption compares to that... You know, an actual basis, and not something that's completely dismantled by pointing out that your sole provided reason for hating SDS is equally true for another substance you have no problems with.

Of course, regardless of what I convince you of here, your reaction has demonstrated the point I was trying to make: That you have a long history of picking up limited information through your experiences and drawing conclusions from that information without actually taking the time to understand what it means or how it can actually be applied. You worked in biotech for 20 years and believe this means you are knowledgeable on related matters, but you have no more than a rudimentary understanding of most such things that falls apart under the most basic of scrutiny. Your grasp of immunology is no exception.

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Muscles posted...

No, in other words it's stupid and something that you grow out of once you get some standards

Standards that you got by... experiencing more recent media that was influenced by it?

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I make my own. Sometimes I'll add in bacon, usually seasoned bread crumbs.

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Muscles posted...

Even if you watch it in a vacuum and not compare it to any sitcoms that came after it it still just seems so... tame and boring. There is no boundary pushing, intelligent jokes, or especially artistic writing/camera work/etc

This is coming from someone that used to like friends and seen every episode multiple times, but once you become an adult and get a more refined taste it just seems so plain

In other words, you appreciated it at the time, but as time passed and you had more experiences, it stopped seeming remarkable? That's how things like this go: They influence everything that comes after them and experiencing those other things prevents the original from standing out. As much as you'd like to think you're watching it in a vacuum and not comparing it to others, you do have a suite of expectations and standards that have been set by everything you've experienced, and every experience you have is subconsciously compared to those.

Muscles posted...

Uhh that's not really that big of a deal, even Simpson's pushes the boundaries further

Today? Absolutely. In 1992? Absolutely not. That was a huge deal back then.

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SaltyAndSweet posted...

How is he still in office if he is on trial for so much corruption

Because the people that have the power to remove him are in on the corruption.

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Besides, what makes you think we could tackle the big-ticket pollution issues if we can't even get people on board with low-hanging fruit like this? Yeah, straws are a trivial amount of pollution, but they're also really easy to live without (for people that don't rely on them due to disabilities, that is). Might as well phase them out and make a small difference for virtually no cost, then go on with dealing with more significant problems that will take more complex plans.

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SaltyAndSweet posted...

We should declare war on that country

I don't recommend it. The geese aren't very nice.

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Sarcasthma posted...

He meant to say ten million.

That'd still be off. A billion is 901 million away from 99 million.

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SunWuKung420 posted...

Honestly, trying to compare the 2 is a huge false equivalency.

Not remotely. Both are classified as irritants. Avoiding one purely because it's classified as an irritant while not avoiding the other is just plain inconsistent. Anything else you're using to distinguish the two isn't your basis for avoiding SDS, rendering it irrelevant (unless, of course, you've found more basis for avoiding SDS than that, since it has been rather a while since you put forth that particular bit of questionable logic).

SunWuKung420 posted...

SLS has no benefits.

It has the same benefits as any other detergent, specifically the ability to emulsify non-polar dirt so it'll be dissolved by water. It's also largely responsible for the sudsing action of most products that include it, which helps to increase the surface area exposed to other components of the product (particularly relevant in cleaning hair), as well as making it easier to spread around and providing a clear visual and tactile indicator that one is scrubbing vigorously enough to clean themselves.

SunWuKung420 posted...

Eating hot sauce or a pepper is not the same as using a brush to rub SLS into your gums. Ffs

This is true. Proportional to their respective irritant capacities, the dosage is substantially higher when eating sauce or pepper, hence one experiences vastly more irritation when doing so than when brushing one's teeth. Not sure why you'd bring up that difference, though, given that it's kind of contrary to the point you're trying to make.

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SunWuKung420 posted...

I avoid SLS, an extreme soft tissue/skin irritant present in most liquid soaps/shampoos and toothpaste. Capsaicin, which is typically only consumed, is much safer, has health benefits and not rubbed on your genitals, gums and the largest organ of the body.

Did... did you really just say that something you eat doesn't get rubbed on your gums? And that capsaicin isn't an extreme irritant?

Yes, SDS (which is also SLS) is an irritant. Virtually all detergents are (including even the most natural soaps you can find), simply by virtue of being amphipathic. Like literally everything with any sort of toxicity, though, the degree to which you experience that irritation depends entirely on dosage. Rubbing pure SDS on your skin is going to be a major problem. So is rubbing pure capsaicin on your skin (that's basically what pepper spray is). Rubbing a small amount of SDS on your skin and rinsing it off once it's done its job and dissolved the non-polar compounds you're trying to clean off, however, is going to be pretty harmless, much like eating capsaicin in the quantities you find it in most foods. It's all about dosage.

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Zeus posted...

If it was enforced like on Gamefaqs, it wouldn't be enforced at all. Keep in mind that you're literally on the site's "What Poll of the Day?" board.

PotD is a weird exception, in that it grew into a social board independent of the poll. On most non-social boards, topicality is enforced.

Nightwind posted...

Social pressure does that in most places. You might just be immune to it.

Indeed. Walk into a conversation where everybody's talking about skateboarding and try talking about knitting, and you'll pretty immediately be shut down by the fact that nobody engages with you. It's not a formal rule and there's no external enforcement, but it's generally pretty difficult to go anywhere talking about something that nobody around you wants to talk about.

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I haven't seen any of them.

Far-Queue posted...

If like 10 of us watch Extraction we can push that to a billion views

I think you might have left out an order of magnitude there.

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Deliberately giving fake ones? Probably not. Executives giving release dates that have no regard for how long their development team can actually be expected to take because they have no comprehension of how to manage a game project and ignore the input from their actual teams, largely because they just want to look better to shareholders? That absolutely happens.

Game delays (at least in the AAA space) are rarely because development teams increased the scope of the project and want to get it right. They're almost always because the original deadlines were missed despite teams working insane hours under tremendous pressure from bosses who have no idea how long game development actually takes.

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Muscles posted...

I still wonder how that show got so popular, it's just your average run of the mill sitcoms

It's run-of-the-mill because it set many of the standards we consider normal for sitcoms today. That's not unlike saying that the cinematography of Citizen Kane is nothing special (though not quite to the same degree).

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GEKGanon posted...

The system would self-correct when nobody has money to buy their products, their revenue craters into oblivion, and they subsequently go out of business.

But individual businesses won't be able to stop that. They aren't going to be able to say "our revenue is tanking, better start paying some people so people can buy our stuff," because that's just going to cost them even more money and not offset the loss in revenue. The system won't correct itself so much as it will collapse on itself.

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SaltyAndSweet posted...

I cant buy drugs with that

You can, however, go get some drugs from the drug dispensing robot, provided you aren't asking for more than is available.

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SaltyAndSweet posted...

Solution: Universal Basic Income

Or just abolish money entirely and let a global resource distribution AI distribute goods and services as required.

GEKGanon posted...

You'd either have to have UBI, or businesses would have to intentionally refuse to automate work that could otherwise be automated.

The problem with the latter solution is that businesses generally are not going to sacrifice their own productivity for the sake of the general economy. Automating everything reduces the amount of money in circulation, but it also gives owners of individual businesses more money, so they generally aren't going to care and will instead hope that everyone else makes the necessary sacrifices to keep the economy running while they reap all of the benefits. So... capitalism as usual.

Basically, unless some sort of regulation is put in place to force companies to not automate a certain percentage of their workload (which is hardly ideal), the system won't self-correct.

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I don't TL;DR often, but holy walls of text Batman.

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Classic Jen. Probably deleted your own post for attenjen or something.

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Jen0125 posted...

All cops are bastards, thanks mods.

You're obviously lying about getting modded. Everyone knows right-wing posters and left-leaning centrists are the only ones that get modded, while left-wing ones are free to say all manner of horrible things without consequence.

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