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Topic | Community Mafia Topic 13 - Ethics of Appealing to Emotion |
Forceful_Dragon 05/10/24 7:09:13 PM #70 | Leafeon13N posted...
That igcd isn't a gambitting type, mostly. So how is this ANY fucking different than me saying role meta (ie his CLAIM which would have to be a GAMBIT if it weren't true) is the best thing he has going for him? You're saying the exact shit and calling me wrong. --- ~C~ FD http://i.imgur.com/dGDfxaw.png |
Topic | Community Mafia Topic 13 - Ethics of Appealing to Emotion |
Forceful_Dragon 05/10/24 7:08:13 PM #68 | Leafeon13N posted...
Also kirby the gist of it is that ulti essentially claimed a role that is on a timer and instead of letting that timer tick down you went for the hero play. Even so Kirby isn't scum unless he's scum backup who took Knightz' role, and immediately used it to bus a scummate. --- ~C~ FD http://i.imgur.com/dGDfxaw.png |
Topic | Community Mafia Topic 13 - Ethics of Appealing to Emotion |
Forceful_Dragon 05/10/24 7:03:13 PM #64 | Leafeon13N posted...
There are things that make igcd town and it isn't role meta. I can't recall ever feeling any special towny way about IGCD this game. imo he has "uncountered vigi" going for him and not much else. He doesn't even have to particularly give thoughts because he is bound by his sidequest, which is something he can lean on for yet another day. What are these "things" you speak of? --- ~C~ FD http://i.imgur.com/dGDfxaw.png |
Topic | Community Mafia Topic 13 - Ethics of Appealing to Emotion |
Forceful_Dragon 05/10/24 7:00:37 PM #60 | Meow1000 posted...
Sneaking in a post I shouldn't be making because I realized something super alarming wasn't the passive blocker theory crafting because ulti claimed blocked? And then Kirby confessed to it? Or is that something we're still seriously considering? --- ~C~ FD http://i.imgur.com/dGDfxaw.png |
Topic | Community Mafia Topic 13 - Ethics of Appealing to Emotion |
Forceful_Dragon 05/10/24 6:59:27 PM #58 | On my lists of 3 I'm really only confident about the first 2 in each category. Chang and Kirby def town, Red and Ben most likely scum with MI a distant 3rd (and Ulti/Death a close 4th)
Ctes and IGCD just kind of in the middle. Role meta dictates IGCD should be town and we don't have a claim from Ctes yet to really gauge, but he has that inno scan and maybe he'll be able to vote again today? :shrug: --- ~C~ FD http://i.imgur.com/dGDfxaw.png |
Topic | Community Mafia Topic 13 - Ethics of Appealing to Emotion |
Forceful_Dragon 05/10/24 6:56:52 PM #55 | https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/b/b47d7751.png
I might have to reformat into 2 images if it's getting too wide, or remove the day columns. Town: Chang, Kirby, Blade Scum: Red, Ben, MI I gave my love to Ctes last night --- ~C~ FD http://i.imgur.com/dGDfxaw.png |
Topic | Community Mafia Topic 12 - Postmodern Analysis of the Joke Phase |
Forceful_Dragon 05/09/24 5:57:44 PM #386 | PeaceFrog posted...
Yeah they were. Why does everyone think this? Him getting shot doesn't magically prove people he lied to about BP were innocent. He could have been strongarmed, poisoned or hell they might just have not believed the BP lie --- ~C~ FD http://i.imgur.com/dGDfxaw.png |
Topic | Community Mafia Topic 12 - Postmodern Analysis of the Joke Phase |
Forceful_Dragon 05/09/24 5:55:26 PM #376 | ctesjbuvf posted...
FD what's your track record of flavor metaing? No i don't think they were. He claimed he was trying to avoid being shot and somehow if he WAS shot it would prove everyone he ever talked to was innocent? It's absolutely backwards to how I would play a role like town neighborizer. --- ~C~ FD http://i.imgur.com/dGDfxaw.png |
Topic | Community Mafia Topic 12 - Postmodern Analysis of the Joke Phase |
Forceful_Dragon 05/09/24 5:53:02 PM #362 | PeaceFrog posted...
If it was literally anyone other than you two i might be tempted. I'm really temped tbh. The flavor of Buddy as neighborizer has never sat well, and the walking back of BP combined with choosing to supposedly lie about BP in the neighbor chats themselves? Fuck it ##Unvote ##Vote: Ben --- ~C~ FD http://i.imgur.com/dGDfxaw.png |
Topic | Community Mafia Topic 12 - Postmodern Analysis of the Joke Phase |
Forceful_Dragon 05/09/24 5:46:08 PM #333 | Meow1000 posted...
Who would ever scan Kirby Ulti brought him up. To "trap" peaf somehow --- ~C~ FD http://i.imgur.com/dGDfxaw.png |
Topic | Community Mafia Topic 12 - Postmodern Analysis of the Joke Phase |
Forceful_Dragon 05/09/24 5:44:43 PM #327 | IGCD hasn't posted in half an hour. Hope he set an alarm or he's going to have to push his sidequest back again.
Heck, if we keep the vote tied then he'll actually have to make a choice for himself this game. --- ~C~ FD http://i.imgur.com/dGDfxaw.png |
Topic | Community Mafia Topic 12 - Postmodern Analysis of the Joke Phase |
Forceful_Dragon 05/09/24 5:43:19 PM #324 | Meow1000 posted...
Well I was about to say I'd rather vote Ben than Peaf but does scum Ben actually make that post Does chaos incarnate 3P ben? <_< It's an odd way to chime in regardless. --- ~C~ FD http://i.imgur.com/dGDfxaw.png |
Topic | Community Mafia Topic 12 - Postmodern Analysis of the Joke Phase |
Forceful_Dragon 05/09/24 5:40:25 PM #316 | htaeD posted...
The same scum that had no reason to send anyone besides Wallz to kill someone? By the phrasing I still think this interpretation is wrong. I think Wallz only needed to send the Frame and anyone else could send the kill for it to still work. But clearly he did send the kill so it's a moot point. Or blade actually did prevent a kill and MI was targeted n1, hell if i know. --- ~C~ FD http://i.imgur.com/dGDfxaw.png |
Topic | Community Mafia Topic 12 - Postmodern Analysis of the Joke Phase |
Forceful_Dragon 05/09/24 5:37:40 PM #306 | PeaceFrog posted...
... if Kirby is scum then he could just be lying about jk to have bussed wallz to distract from Corrik vs Blade. He's jailed scum once and vanilla twice so there's no way to know for sure at this point, but I'm not sure wallz gets lynched without Kirby's claim so I'm still inclined to believe him. --- ~C~ FD http://i.imgur.com/dGDfxaw.png |
Topic | Community Mafia Topic 12 - Postmodern Analysis of the Joke Phase |
Forceful_Dragon 05/09/24 5:36:18 PM #301 | Meow1000 posted...
FD's role in the game I remember could not kill town. I have vague memories of being a scum lawyer, but I don't remember how that game ended. Was that classical music? --- ~C~ FD http://i.imgur.com/dGDfxaw.png |
Topic | Community Mafia Topic 12 - Postmodern Analysis of the Joke Phase |
Forceful_Dragon 05/09/24 5:35:07 PM #296 | PeaceFrog posted...
which wouldn't happen if we simply ride the lazy river to Corrik Beach. I don't think that was ever in danger. There were several of us looking outside of the presumptive lynch every day. Only to be paradoxically accused of deflecting when we do, and yet accused of allowing the day to stagnate when we don't. It's a disgusting Catch 22 --- ~C~ FD http://i.imgur.com/dGDfxaw.png |
Topic | Community Mafia Topic 12 - Postmodern Analysis of the Joke Phase |
Forceful_Dragon 05/09/24 5:33:33 PM #292 | Meow1000 posted...
He proved he could move votes. When he forced the votes into a majority the day ended. How is that functionally different than killing? It might as well be a day vig that ends the day when it's used. --- ~C~ FD http://i.imgur.com/dGDfxaw.png |
Topic | Community Mafia Topic 12 - Postmodern Analysis of the Joke Phase |
Forceful_Dragon 05/09/24 4:15:59 PM #214 | changmas posted...
Red i would like to know if your flavor is Britta though Can't be, red never lived in New York --- ~C~ FD http://i.imgur.com/dGDfxaw.png |
Topic | Community Mafia Topic 12 - Postmodern Analysis of the Joke Phase |
Forceful_Dragon 05/09/24 4:02:07 PM #200 | htaeD posted...
Oh ? He just told you what I was saying and I agreed with him. If I had to make a list of players I would want to NK as scum you would be damn near the top and Ulti would be just off the bottom which is why I thought it felt weird for IGCD to put Ulti on his list of 4 town players scum should fear. No major offense to you Ulti, you just exude broken clock syndrome when you happen to be right about someone. The fact that you will regularly vote for literally everyone but yourself probably doesn't help. --- ~C~ FD http://i.imgur.com/dGDfxaw.png |
Topic | Community Mafia Topic 12 - Postmodern Analysis of the Joke Phase |
Forceful_Dragon 05/09/24 3:59:40 PM #192 | changmas posted...
Shoot the guilty scan obviously Unless it's Ben because he might actually be BP if he scans guilty. --- ~C~ FD http://i.imgur.com/dGDfxaw.png |
Topic | Community Mafia Topic 12 - Postmodern Analysis of the Joke Phase |
Forceful_Dragon 05/09/24 3:44:55 PM #171 | Kirby321 posted...
No, IGCD meant "these are town players you don't want to be alive at endgame if you're scum" Right on both counts. --- ~C~ FD http://i.imgur.com/dGDfxaw.png |
Topic | Community Mafia Topic 12 - Postmodern Analysis of the Joke Phase |
Forceful_Dragon 05/09/24 3:39:57 PM #167 | IfGodCouldDie posted...
Group 1 did you...misspell "Death"? --- ~C~ FD http://i.imgur.com/dGDfxaw.png |
Topic | Community Mafia Topic 12 - Postmodern Analysis of the Joke Phase |
Forceful_Dragon 05/09/24 3:22:40 PM #156 | Leafeon13N posted...
Wait what i just got done working 6 days in a row. After 3-4 days off at the start of the game. Those days where you basically said nothing except argued with me -_- So you're aware it's a scum tell and you went out of your way to avoid it? :D --- ~C~ FD http://i.imgur.com/dGDfxaw.png |
Topic | Community Mafia Topic 12 - Postmodern Analysis of the Joke Phase |
Forceful_Dragon 05/09/24 2:55:32 PM #126 | PunishedBen posted...
Did red ever claim flavor No, but he should. It might even make me feel better about him. It can't be worse than Buddy --- ~C~ FD http://i.imgur.com/dGDfxaw.png |
Topic | Community Mafia Topic 12 - Postmodern Analysis of the Joke Phase |
Forceful_Dragon 05/09/24 2:53:00 PM #124 | htaeD posted...
I will say I dont recall scumred being this angry last game. scumred had work every single day last game including multiple night to afternoon shifts red has had more days off this game AND he's posting from his alt today so i'm gonna take an educated guess and say... Disneyland? --- ~C~ FD http://i.imgur.com/dGDfxaw.png |
Topic | Community Mafia Topic 12 - Postmodern Analysis of the Joke Phase |
Forceful_Dragon 05/09/24 12:41:50 PM #53 | ctesjbuvf posted...
Why is Ben in a parentheses lol Why does MI have 2 separate entries? that's Too Much MI --- ~C~ FD http://i.imgur.com/dGDfxaw.png |
Topic | Community Mafia Topic 12 - Postmodern Analysis of the Joke Phase |
Forceful_Dragon 05/09/24 12:01:01 PM #42 | We still don't have votes from Ben, Blade, Chang, Ctes, Death, IGCD and Red.
IGCD gets a pass because he has to be the final vote Ctes gets a pass because he is apparently unable to vote Where do the rest of you stand? Are you all so worried to weigh in that you haven't cast a vote on anyone yet today? --- ~C~ FD http://i.imgur.com/dGDfxaw.png |
Topic | Community Mafia Topic 12 - Postmodern Analysis of the Joke Phase |
Forceful_Dragon 05/09/24 11:57:13 AM #41 | oh that's an L, you were breaking up "Ulti" >_>
Anyways <_< --- ~C~ FD http://i.imgur.com/dGDfxaw.png |
Topic | Community Mafia Topic 12 - Postmodern Analysis of the Joke Phase |
Forceful_Dragon 05/09/24 11:51:10 AM #38 | some townie... user interface texas instrument'ed him
some townie... un-intentional total instinct'ed him and also "corrik-ed" unless that simply means "tell pointless lies for no discernable reason/benefit" --- ~C~ FD http://i.imgur.com/dGDfxaw.png |
Topic | Community Mafia Topic 12 - Postmodern Analysis of the Joke Phase |
Forceful_Dragon 05/09/24 11:49:46 AM #37 | Kirby321 posted...
"Oh, didn't you hear? He Corrik-ed himself because some townie Ul Ti-ed him!" I'm trying to understand this portion. --- ~C~ FD http://i.imgur.com/dGDfxaw.png |
Topic | Community Mafia Topic 12 - Postmodern Analysis of the Joke Phase |
Forceful_Dragon 05/09/24 11:47:36 AM #36 | But again, we should resolve vanilla first, I'm willing to wait before hanging the game on the notion that Lopen had a power that's being openly claimed by scum. And hey, maybe you scan someone guilty tonight :)
--- ~C~ FD http://i.imgur.com/dGDfxaw.png |
Topic | Community Mafia Topic 12 - Postmodern Analysis of the Joke Phase |
Forceful_Dragon 05/09/24 11:40:11 AM #34 | UltimaterializerX posted...
This. You really can't though. I'm confident I've seen you make identical posts as vanilla --- ~C~ FD http://i.imgur.com/dGDfxaw.png |
Topic | Community Mafia Topic 12 - Postmodern Analysis of the Joke Phase |
Forceful_Dragon 05/09/24 11:35:25 AM #27 | ctesjbuvf posted...
Can't really blame him for not breadcrumbing that early Sure I can. Lopen, I blame you. See? It was easy. --- ~C~ FD http://i.imgur.com/dGDfxaw.png |
Topic | Community Mafia Topic 12 - Postmodern Analysis of the Joke Phase |
Forceful_Dragon 05/09/24 11:33:30 AM #24 | TotallyNotMI posted...
also good luck ISO'ing TMI with me in the game. Lopen's signature containing "pop genocide" is the reason it took me such a long time to find your flavor when i was looking for magnitude hints. Still disappointed you weren't BG :( --- ~C~ FD http://i.imgur.com/dGDfxaw.png |
Topic | Community Mafia Topic 12 - Postmodern Analysis of the Joke Phase |
Forceful_Dragon 05/09/24 11:31:33 AM #23 | Poured over every Lopen post at least twice. Nothing there really looks like a hint of any kind. He pushed a lot of people over the course of 24 hours. Blade and Ulti most of all, but also myself for a spell. He defended wallz pretty heavily at one point, but was just generally vocal, but not in a way that indicates flavor of role as near as I can tell.
This is why you breadcrumb, in case you vanish without a flip -_- --- ~C~ FD http://i.imgur.com/dGDfxaw.png |
Topic | Community Mafia Topic 11 - Ancient B8 Mafia History (2009-2011) |
Forceful_Dragon 05/09/24 10:36:57 AM #450 | TotallyNotMI posted...
I agree we don't want to lynch Ulti today. Right, to be clear i'm not trying to deflect from my preferred lynch of red, just looking for info elsewhere also. --- ~C~ FD http://i.imgur.com/dGDfxaw.png |
Topic | Community Mafia Topic 11 - Ancient B8 Mafia History (2009-2011) |
Forceful_Dragon 05/09/24 10:14:49 AM #439 | htaeD posted...
Yeah I did notice Ulti placing a lot of his hopes in other people's scans at first. And specifically calling out wallz and MI to be scanned only to pivot to ctes --- ~C~ FD http://i.imgur.com/dGDfxaw.png |
Topic | Community Mafia Topic 11 - Ancient B8 Mafia History (2009-2011) |
Forceful_Dragon 05/09/24 9:58:02 AM #434 | What does it all mean? Well I do notice that the comment didn't really take on a first person perspective until after Lopen poofed.
"I would doc save, if I could" "I can just scan Wall myself tonight" "I will not shoot him tonight." But there was just a hell of a lot of "kill me, target me" in general. From ulti thats something I would expect in advance of a vanilla claim, since iirc he considers eating a bullet as vanilla the most impressive thing you can possibly do. But mostly I just wanted to see what I could find and there it is. Still combing through Lopen's posts for hints/crumbs, but haven't seen much yet. --- ~C~ FD http://i.imgur.com/dGDfxaw.png |
Topic | Community Mafia Topic 11 - Ancient B8 Mafia History (2009-2011) |
Forceful_Dragon 05/09/24 9:53:39 AM #433 | Topic 4:
UltimaterializerX posted... Blade its ok, I can just scan Wall myself tonight after we kill Knight. Topic 5: UltimaterializerX posted... IGCD being my bro is noted and appreciated. I will not shoot him tonight. UltimaterializerX posted... Okay. UltimaterializerX posted... (referring to MI, less than an hour before lynch) Someone please scan this guy if he escapes. UltimaterializerX posted... Scum, please target me. I really, really want you to. UltimaterializerX posted... Kirby please day scan Corrik tomorrow. --- ~C~ FD http://i.imgur.com/dGDfxaw.png |
Topic | Community Mafia Topic 11 - Ancient B8 Mafia History (2009-2011) |
Forceful_Dragon 05/09/24 9:52:48 AM #432 | Topic 2:
UltimaterializerX posted... Red having any activity day 1 means Ill never vote for him before he gets scanned. UltimaterializerX posted... Your chances of getting me mislynched are 0%. Mainly because I want scum wasting night actions on me night 1 UltimaterializerX posted... Youre very very easy to spot as town, moreover I want scum to shoot me, not the guy soft claiming town vig. Save that for the actual scums and let them waste their own time trying to figure me out. Topic 3: (After Lopen vanished) UltimaterializerX posted... The best part is scum is so going to waste actions on me tonight, just as planned. UltimaterializerX posted... Someone should just scan Knight tonight and be done with it. This reeks of one of those too easy and hell flip town vanilla day ones. UltimaterializerX posted... MI, SBell is lock town soul read. I would literally doc save him if I could. --- ~C~ FD http://i.imgur.com/dGDfxaw.png |
Topic | Community Mafia Topic 11 - Ancient B8 Mafia History (2009-2011) |
Forceful_Dragon 05/09/24 9:52:38 AM #431 | Presented without commentary, every Ulti post day 1 that involved telling scum to target him, or kill him, or mentioning the usage of cop/doc roles and where they should go.
Topic 1: UltimaterializerX posted... Listen to me on days 1 and 2, listen to scans after that, UltimaterializerX posted... I would love scum wasting actions on me tonight lmao UltimaterializerX posted... Someone please scan this guy tonight. You all know my rule. UltimaterializerX posted... Im replicating that play in hopes someone from last game remembers that play in hopes I get shot. UltimaterializerX posted... God if scum thinks I'm town power it'll be so great. PLEASE target me, guys. :D --- ~C~ FD http://i.imgur.com/dGDfxaw.png |
Topic | Community Mafia Topic 11 - Ancient B8 Mafia History (2009-2011) |
Forceful_Dragon 05/09/24 12:44:52 AM #366 | red13n posted...
its not hard to know what they would prefer. You movement frame every time barring some weird situational frame. And what if the game didn't have a watcher or a tracker and the movement frame was a complete trap? I think on average movement frame sounds better than guilty frame, but it's still an assumption to believe it's the only one that wallz would use. It's also a complete moot point because we know he didn't get to use anything --- ~C~ FD http://i.imgur.com/dGDfxaw.png |
Topic | Community Mafia Topic 11 - Ancient B8 Mafia History (2009-2011) |
Forceful_Dragon 05/09/24 12:41:14 AM #364 | ninja'd by kirby lol
But yeah, in a situation where wallz dies before using his ability then SBell's information finds the killer every time or at least narrows it down perfectly. --- ~C~ FD http://i.imgur.com/dGDfxaw.png |
Topic | Community Mafia Topic 11 - Ancient B8 Mafia History (2009-2011) |
Forceful_Dragon 05/09/24 12:38:30 AM #363 | red13n posted...
sbell's role was a trap and basically guaranteed 1 mislynch at least. That assumes Wallz was going to use the movement Frame every night instead of the guilty Frame though, right? Hard to know what they would prefer, but they wouldn't know if they would benefit more from making someone scan guilty or making someone appear to visit a target. If they knew what town roles existed then sure, they would use the movement Frame every single time because every night kill would make SBells information worse. I think it's more fair to say that SBells role had the potential to be anti-town, but was not 100% guaranteed to be so. --- ~C~ FD http://i.imgur.com/dGDfxaw.png |
Topic | Community Mafia Topic 11 - Ancient B8 Mafia History (2009-2011) |
Forceful_Dragon 05/08/24 10:59:06 PM #346 | I'll look through Lopen's posts again and see if there is anything resembling a breadcrumb there. I think if there is a fake power then they are getting by claiming Lopen's role/flavor.
--- ~C~ FD http://i.imgur.com/dGDfxaw.png |
Topic | Community Mafia Topic 11 - Ancient B8 Mafia History (2009-2011) |
Forceful_Dragon 05/08/24 9:15:45 PM #319 | That's actually a great point. Your side-quest would be impossible if your vote were removed every day, so why is it being permitted?
It would make me trust you less, tbh except for the fact that I didn't think about that combination of abilities and you were the one who pointed it out. --- ~C~ FD http://i.imgur.com/dGDfxaw.png |
Topic | Community Mafia Topic 11 - Ancient B8 Mafia History (2009-2011) |
Forceful_Dragon 05/08/24 7:49:38 PM #312 | I agree that we should assume 3 left, but I won't be surprised if only 2 with the relative strength of scum/town that we're aware of. Maybe ctes has something that tips the scales and changes how we would estimate the balance, but that's not important today.
--- ~C~ FD http://i.imgur.com/dGDfxaw.png |
Topic | Community Mafia Topic 11 - Ancient B8 Mafia History (2009-2011) |
Forceful_Dragon 05/08/24 4:55:48 PM #291 | Enchantress posted...
Votals tbh I thought I was setting red to 4 when I voted. Kirby you're actually swapping to the person you RB'd last night? Over red who didn't start playing until halfway through d3? --- ~C~ FD http://i.imgur.com/dGDfxaw.png |
Topic | Community Mafia Topic 11 - Ancient B8 Mafia History (2009-2011) |
Forceful_Dragon 05/08/24 4:09:07 PM #267 | ##Vote: Ben
##Unvote I still have #BuddyDoubt and I want that on record. But between MI, Peaf and Red I still like the red lynch best. He's been posting more lately, but he's the player I'd be most afraid of if scum. Throw in the fact that the night kills haven't been targeted at Red/Blade/Death and it gives me fear at all 3 of them. I mean I guess we don't know what happened night 1, that one might have been targeted their way. But Isquen and Sbell were targeted on nights when all 3 of them were unclaimed. If you're shooting in the dark why not shoot at a bigger target? So between the unscanned vanillas that leaves Red. Blade I like because Troy as the True Repairman is perfect flavor, but it could also potentially have been Lopen's flavor. And Death is specifically limited to godfather if Ulti's scans are real. Which is all to say that red feels like the safest play. ##Vote: Red --- ~C~ FD http://i.imgur.com/dGDfxaw.png |
Topic | Community Mafia Topic 11 - Ancient B8 Mafia History (2009-2011) |
Forceful_Dragon 05/08/24 3:59:59 PM #261 | Forceful_Dragon posted... [T10P47]
btw ctesjbuvf can you TRY to vote for us please? I'd like to confirm this is real with host votals if you don't mind. . ctesjbuvf posted... [T10P48] Sure Just to add a citation, because I wasn't exactly sure when I said it but I remembered it was a thing that happened >_> --- ~C~ FD http://i.imgur.com/dGDfxaw.png |
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