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Sbell, Ulti claimed that ctes and death are confirmed. Not just "innocent" but confirmed.

And he's been talking about how op his role is since like, mid/late-d1.

He's lying as town to bait a shot, or truthful to make scum think the other way around.

Or he is just scum acting like a town Ulti does sometimes.

No one has pointed to any interaction with the scum and been like "oh look red is scum".

Poker Face

Night 1 I confirmed ctes, night 2 I confirmed Death.

If town keeps me alive, we win. Simple as.

I would like to say though that vote stripping is an extremely strong power to the point where it has become rare. Most scumteams will not reveal they have this kind of power at all before it becomes an instant wincon very late in the game. I find it curious that it's apparently now been inflicted twice on a player that feels chosen at random.

Also, having the power to strip votes (apparently for multiple days) and the power to apparently remove a player during the day (Lopen) seems completely broken for a scumteam to have.

Something's up here and I'm not sure what it is.

Peaf says Corrik is town (repeatedly)

Peaf suggests he doesn't like Red

Peaf makes no attempt to pressure Red in any way

Ben votes Red

Peaf casually talks to Chang about flavor and makes no comment on the vote at all

Ben did more in more a post with one sentence to advance a train that isn't Corrik than Peaf (who's calling Corrik town) has all day.

I cannot vote today either.

Alright fine let Corrik cook.

##Vote: Red

No. You literally were severely misunderstanding based on your own inability to read proper tense.

Well I will say.

It worries me that the game state right now accepts Corrik being the lynch way too much. I've had pause all along because my immediate reaction to reading the dialogue was that Corrik wasn't being truthful about the block and I just didn't know what to do with it entirely. I don't get the town motive but I also don't get the scum motive at all.

Subway. Look at Chang's first post, then my vote, then what said to him on day 2.

It wasn't grammar. FD was taking my literal words and misconstruing them to say something different.

Yeah but if anyone tracks Wallz they wouldn't see the framed person visit the night kill that makes no sense. It would be if the framed person was tracked it would cause trouble. So the Wallz was trying to be tracked doesn't really make sense.

The way it looks to me is that Wall would be seen as targeting whoever he framed, and whoever he framed would be seen as targeting the kill. So, I do believe that Kirby blocked Wall sending the kill and that Wall sent it trying to frame someone else.

does anyone want to give me the bullet points from the last 24 hours? I don't have the brain power to read this topic.

You may attempt to target a player. If successful, they will be seen performing your night kill that night by any investigative roles.

I was referring to wallz in that premeditated bus comment.

Anyway since no one is really interested in the game that i suggested, i just want everyone to consider that even if corrik is scum there are probably at least two others. Don't be complacent in "yep he's today's lynch don't look beyond that". Lynch one at a time but keep your eyes open and all.

But anyway, Wallz' flip makes it clear he was trying to be tracked or watched sending the kill.

Starring role has to mean the main character you play the whole game as, otherwise Pokemon would count for every animal.

As far as I'm concerned roleblocks can be redirected so long as the roleblock isn't targeting the redirection themselves. That's always how I've seen it.

A priority order list really can't accommodate for that.

I meant this one. If the cop had a mason or there was a grave robber or something it could matter

I did read this I just don't think of it that way

for example a strongman kill would technically come before a scan and a regular kill after, but I don't think that would change whether a cop got their result or not

As someone who has never seen an episode of Community I wasn't expecting evil characters and alternate timelines

I think that means if I got roleblocked my redirect wouldn't go off, not that roleblocks can't be redirected. I'm not exactly sure though

During the Night phase, the following is the order in which actions take place. This is in no way confirmation of all these abilities being in the game.
1. Any necessary and hopefully unlikely host intervention
2. Strongman/poison
3. Any ability for which it is convenient to act early such as recruiter, neighborizer messenger or backup.
4. Roleblocking
5. Any form for redirection
6. Role stealing
7. Any form for kidnapping or commuting
8. Anything that does not fall into the other categories
9. Regular killing abilities

The grand plan is to have Corrik essentially suicide himself on Blade, who locks himself into a specific type of power claim? Yeah no.

So let's all play a game here to get our thoughts out on the table. Who would your next suspect be if corrik flips A, town; or B, scum?

How many scum are we looking at in 19? 5 or 6?

I'm part lazy part busy can someone repost the doppelganger role info for me.

(I dont care about flavor)

You are Evil Annie, MAFIA Framing Doppelganger.

In an alternate timeline, a fluke of fate results in your gun misfiring and killing Pierce. The guilt drove you insane once more, and you ended up embracing corruption and manipulation as you work to destroy the prime timeline.

At night, you may choose from the following two abilities:

You may attempt to target a player. If successful, they will scan guilty until the next night phase.

OR

You may attempt to target a player. If successful, they will be seen performing your night kill that night by any investigative roles.

You win when scum has control of the lynch."

Hi fd, is this your first game playing with Corrik?

Corriks roleblock shouldnt have gone anywhere else tho?
Not that it matters now with his claim retracted

Fd, if corrik flipped vanilla after we lynched him surely we'd all realize that whatever he had on Blade was made up

I thought he was the obvious target and if I died you guys could figure it out. I thought we had to sort out the contradicting claims and Corrik seemed to be the more sussed of the two. If I was RB'd he's likely clear since scum blocker is ded. Also we know he didn't send the kill which is slight town points.

Quendra, Town Vanilla.

Given I have zero knowledge of this flavor I don't really have anything to add to the discussion.

But we're kinda nearing a point where so many people are towning other people that it's nearly impossible to even have a POE and that actually makes things feel murkier.

My biggest issue with corrik is I'd expect him to come out swinging for blade here.

I dont think we've seen that. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Well now I'm nosy

What is your poor reason.

Anyone have good reason to townpile MI?

That would have to imply he would think I am scum.

Correct?

Were you trying to save me or block me in the hypothetical you jailkept me last night

You should stop being argumentative and give us a full claim