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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 11 - Ancient B8 Mafia History (2009-2011)
Forceful_Dragon
05/09/24 12:44:52 AM
#366
red13n posted...
its not hard to know what they would prefer. You movement frame every time barring some weird situational frame.

And what if the game didn't have a watcher or a tracker and the movement frame was a complete trap? I think on average movement frame sounds better than guilty frame, but it's still an assumption to believe it's the only one that wallz would use. It's also a complete moot point because we know he didn't get to use anything

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~C~ FD
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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 11 - Ancient B8 Mafia History (2009-2011)
Forceful_Dragon
05/09/24 12:41:14 AM
#364
ninja'd by kirby lol

But yeah, in a situation where wallz dies before using his ability then SBell's information finds the killer every time or at least narrows it down perfectly.

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~C~ FD
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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 11 - Ancient B8 Mafia History (2009-2011)
Forceful_Dragon
05/09/24 12:38:30 AM
#363
red13n posted...
sbell's role was a trap and basically guaranteed 1 mislynch at least.

That assumes Wallz was going to use the movement Frame every night instead of the guilty Frame though, right? Hard to know what they would prefer, but they wouldn't know if they would benefit more from making someone scan guilty or making someone appear to visit a target. If they knew what town roles existed then sure, they would use the movement Frame every single time because every night kill would make SBells information worse. I think it's more fair to say that SBells role had the potential to be anti-town, but was not 100% guaranteed to be so.

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~C~ FD
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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 11 - Ancient B8 Mafia History (2009-2011)
Forceful_Dragon
05/08/24 10:59:06 PM
#346
I'll look through Lopen's posts again and see if there is anything resembling a breadcrumb there. I think if there is a fake power then they are getting by claiming Lopen's role/flavor.

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~C~ FD
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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 11 - Ancient B8 Mafia History (2009-2011)
Forceful_Dragon
05/08/24 9:15:45 PM
#319
That's actually a great point. Your side-quest would be impossible if your vote were removed every day, so why is it being permitted?

It would make me trust you less, tbh except for the fact that I didn't think about that combination of abilities and you were the one who pointed it out.

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~C~ FD
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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 11 - Ancient B8 Mafia History (2009-2011)
Forceful_Dragon
05/08/24 7:49:38 PM
#312
I agree that we should assume 3 left, but I won't be surprised if only 2 with the relative strength of scum/town that we're aware of. Maybe ctes has something that tips the scales and changes how we would estimate the balance, but that's not important today.

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~C~ FD
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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 11 - Ancient B8 Mafia History (2009-2011)
Forceful_Dragon
05/08/24 4:55:48 PM
#291
Enchantress posted...
Votals
[3] Red - (Kirby), MI, (Kirby), Peaf, FD
[2] MI - Ulti, Kirby

tbh I thought I was setting red to 4 when I voted. Kirby you're actually swapping to the person you RB'd last night? Over red who didn't start playing until halfway through d3?

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~C~ FD
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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 11 - Ancient B8 Mafia History (2009-2011)
Forceful_Dragon
05/08/24 4:09:07 PM
#267
##Vote: Ben
##Unvote

I still have #BuddyDoubt and I want that on record.

But between MI, Peaf and Red I still like the red lynch best. He's been posting more lately, but he's the player I'd be most afraid of if scum. Throw in the fact that the night kills haven't been targeted at Red/Blade/Death and it gives me fear at all 3 of them. I mean I guess we don't know what happened night 1, that one might have been targeted their way. But Isquen and Sbell were targeted on nights when all 3 of them were unclaimed. If you're shooting in the dark why not shoot at a bigger target?

So between the unscanned vanillas that leaves Red.

Blade I like because Troy as the True Repairman is perfect flavor, but it could also potentially have been Lopen's flavor.

And Death is specifically limited to godfather if Ulti's scans are real.

Which is all to say that red feels like the safest play.

##Vote: Red

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~C~ FD
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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 11 - Ancient B8 Mafia History (2009-2011)
Forceful_Dragon
05/08/24 3:59:59 PM
#261
Forceful_Dragon posted... [T10P47]
btw ctesjbuvf can you TRY to vote for us please? I'd like to confirm this is real with host votals if you don't mind.

And just to confirm you were informed of your affliction just before the start of each day?

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ctesjbuvf posted... [T10P48]
Sure

##vote: FD

Yes, before day began.

Just to add a citation, because I wasn't exactly sure when I said it but I remembered it was a thing that happened >_>

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~C~ FD
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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 11 - Ancient B8 Mafia History (2009-2011)
Forceful_Dragon
05/08/24 3:55:41 PM
#259
htaeD posted...
Honestly I should have just asked you how you were informed that you cannot vote as soon as you said it.

you mean the thing I did yesterday? <_<

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~C~ FD
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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 11 - Ancient B8 Mafia History (2009-2011)
Forceful_Dragon
05/08/24 3:53:22 PM
#256
ctesjbuvf posted...
Why did you think so?

Not to speak for Death, but that actually makes him seem more town to me, the fact that he didn't know the mechanic.

It also makes it seem like he's not paying enough attention, because when you said yesterday that your vote was removed for a second time I specifically asked you if you got a notification each night about it, and made you attempt a vote just to be sure.

There's no legitimate town reason for vote removal that I can think of, so whoever is doing this must be scum

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~C~ FD
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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 11 - Ancient B8 Mafia History (2009-2011)
Forceful_Dragon
05/08/24 3:51:22 PM
#254
htaeD posted...
Unless Lopen really was kidnapped and he returns once we kill the culprit. But that a mere hope.

If that happens I hope he has been keeping up on the game for the past week+ but it would certainly be great for numbers.

I guess hypothetically the same person who vanished Lopen could be the person removing ctes' vote every night, and if Lopen is returnable killing them would effectively bring two town back to life.


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~C~ FD
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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 11 - Ancient B8 Mafia History (2009-2011)
Forceful_Dragon
05/08/24 1:48:17 PM
#226
UltimaterializerX posted...
I said Im scanning Red tonight 100% and magically hes the vote leader? No thanks.

Your scan doesn't mean anything, especially on the vanillas unless a gf flips. If there's a gf I don't think it would also be a jailkeeper or a taunter or something, so it's likely in the vanillas. I'd much rather you scan Ben tonight.

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~C~ FD
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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 11 - Ancient B8 Mafia History (2009-2011)
Forceful_Dragon
05/08/24 1:39:18 PM
#225
Leafeon13N posted...
These are in fact on the table, yes.

Hell if i was in your position as town I'd be paranoid that he had access to your chats somehow with a flavor mistake that glaring and on the nose.

I don't need to read anyone else's chat. I KNOW this flavor to a T. Just not the shit from the season that doesn't count. I've seen season 1-3 at least ten times. I've seen 5-6 a few times each. I've seen season 4 exactly once except for maybe the anime foosball scene.

But the evil study group has a few cutaway moments in season 3 and in all of those they reference Pierce's death.

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~C~ FD
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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 11 - Ancient B8 Mafia History (2009-2011)
Forceful_Dragon
05/08/24 1:30:52 PM
#222
Leafeon13N posted...
This is a stretch imo ben. Definitely shouldn't be flavor clearing from your pov because its a weird mistske for both of you to make at once.

And all I can really say is: Season fucking four

It's more or less an abomination.

They original show runner got fired after season 3 (and rehired after season 4) and season 4 is just a weird speed bump in an already weird show.

Evil Pierce is both found to exists and is killed in the span of a single scene in an awful episode of the awful season. The only thing I remember and the episode is that it's a BAD personal episode and the evil study group shows up to take over the good one, but Pierce's death was an established part of that narrative.

At the beginning of season 5 they reference that the school had a gas leak which was fixed but it caused everyone to act weird. (Aka the shows way of season season 4 basically doesn't count)

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~C~ FD
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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 11 - Ancient B8 Mafia History (2009-2011)
Forceful_Dragon
05/08/24 9:50:15 AM
#134
UltimaterializerX posted...
We need to ban roles like this from the community btw

bearing in mind that there is an above 0% chance that ctes has removed his OWN vote for some unknown purpose?

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~C~ FD
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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 11 - Ancient B8 Mafia History (2009-2011)
Forceful_Dragon
05/08/24 9:48:35 AM
#132
htaeD posted...
Ben wise, is there an evil character that could even have his role?

Everyone in the evil study group was trying to replace their prime selves. None of the evils were particularly recruiter-y, but maybe something weird would happen if Ben was an Evil ___ role and he neighborized his town equivalent? If he were Evil Britta and he neighbor'd Britta for example?

The most likely "bad guy" from the show though would be Vice Dean Laybourne, head of the air conditioning repair school who went to great lengths to get troy to join his AC repair program.

Or he's just Buddy in one of the oddest flavor inclusions I can think of.

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~C~ FD
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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 11 - Ancient B8 Mafia History (2009-2011)
Forceful_Dragon
05/08/24 9:17:35 AM
#123
TotallyNotMI posted...
This isn't true though

-_-

Fuck season 4 I honestly didn't remember.

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~C~ FD
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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 11 - Ancient B8 Mafia History (2009-2011)
Forceful_Dragon
05/08/24 9:16:30 AM
#122
I mean sure. 100% not-scum aligned, but not 100% town aligned if you want to entertain pineapple 3p.

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~C~ FD
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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 11 - Ancient B8 Mafia History (2009-2011)
Forceful_Dragon
05/08/24 9:11:15 AM
#119
red13n posted...
But does FD giving love or whatever provide a definitive flavor clear? Cause in a mafia sense its not alignment indicative but beyond that I couldn't comment.

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ctesjbuvf posted...
FD is town unless his role can somehow switch into the evil version of the charcater (I don't know the flavor well).

I'm glad we learned there was a clear flavor split before I had to claim. While Pierce is ultimately a good guy, he is sometimes played as the jerk of the group, but at the end of the day he doesn't have an "Evil" version like the others do. The other 6 turn evil because in that timeline Pierce was accidentally killed by the gun from Annie's purse.

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TotallyNotMI posted...
Pierce freezed his sperm in canister.

FD gives canisters of 'love'

I buy it.

Yeah <_<

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~C~ FD
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TopicFill in the Blank 277: ___ Dog
Forceful_Dragon
05/08/24 1:53:04 AM
#36
Ifrit posted...
Naughty


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~C~ FD
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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 11 - Ancient B8 Mafia History (2009-2011)
Forceful_Dragon
05/08/24 1:09:27 AM
#76
In that scenario you're dead.

Everyone you neighborized is supposed to come forward and say "whoa, I was SURE he was bulletproof! He made me speak the Latin and everything!"

And then everyone else was meant to take that to mean "yup they are full cleared because someone they thought was BP died"

And you didn't once consider the existence of a strongarm?

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Forceful_Dragon posted...
Anyways, that's enough telling Ben how to use the role that might not even be town.

Just gonna take my own advice and stop again.

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~C~ FD
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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 11 - Ancient B8 Mafia History (2009-2011)
Forceful_Dragon
05/08/24 1:02:52 AM
#74
I don't see how that confirms them.

You didn't get shot. They might be scum who BELIEVED you. Your upside is ambiguous at best.

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~C~ FD
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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 11 - Ancient B8 Mafia History (2009-2011)
Forceful_Dragon
05/08/24 12:47:27 AM
#72
Anyways, that's enough telling Ben how to use the role that might not even be town.

As for today, I think we should lynch from the vanilla pile. 6 vanilla (potentially 7 with ctes, potentially 8 with lopen) feels like a lot and Red > MI = Peaf > Death would be my current order, subject to additional reading. Death still had godfather fear so he's not completely ruled out (remind me to teach Ulti was "confirmed" means after this game), but that still puts him last vanilla lynched from a statistical standpoint.

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~C~ FD
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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 11 - Ancient B8 Mafia History (2009-2011)
Forceful_Dragon
05/08/24 12:43:43 AM
#71
PunishedBen posted...
I didnt see the downsides besides lying

the downside is rather than trying to convince scum NOT to shoot you, you should have been trying to convince them TO shoot you. Then you're effectively a bodyguard in addition to neighborizer.

your little white lie should imply there's something about your role that you don't trust your neighbor enough to reveal, something they MAY be willing to kill you for, if they're scum.

Toss in a "I'll be keeping an eye on you, Chang/Kirby/Mzero" as one of your last posts of the day and it becomes clear upon your flip who you targeted that night, potentially correctly implicating them.

Or you could just keep pretending to be BP :shrug:

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~C~ FD
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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 11 - Ancient B8 Mafia History (2009-2011)
Forceful_Dragon
05/08/24 12:32:29 AM
#68
PunishedBen posted...
If I got shot then it basically confirms all of my neighbors town because they shot me even though i said I was bulletproof.

It wasnt supposed to backfire if you all trusted me and didnt out it like you did lol. But it can only backfire on me at worst, and I can defend myself. Otherwise its a useful reaction test. And if I did neighbor scum then its a great way to either figure that out by their reaction or dissuade them from shooting me

It still feels like doing too much. Did you forget that we're AHEAD?

I'm asking for base hits and you're trying to hit a home run. This is two games in a row now you've fake claimed bulletproof, and both times I fail to see the logic.

If any of your 3 dates were scum then you've removed yourself as a potential night kill, narrowing the pool of "good targets" for scum FOR them.

It's not AS egregious as your counterclaim BP in Toy Story, but it still feels like a negative expected value lie. Yeah it gives YOU more life, but it feels worse for town.

At best it's a poor town play, and at worst it's a selfish stay-alive tactic for some kind of exodia win condition.

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~C~ FD
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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 11 - Ancient B8 Mafia History (2009-2011)
Forceful_Dragon
05/07/24 11:40:47 PM
#53
PunishedBen posted...
I didnt think about there being uses for pineapple vendor

-_-'

Proving the Taunter real/fake was one of the only ways I could think of to squeeze something more tangible out of the role. I guess my role also further muddies the water for SBell's role by creating more possibilities for a false positive.

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~C~ FD
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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 11 - Ancient B8 Mafia History (2009-2011)
Forceful_Dragon
05/07/24 11:35:07 PM
#51
And given literally everyone else's it feels like series regulars only <_<

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Meow1000 posted...
I've been wondering if Ctes is some kind of self-votestuffer but you just summed up why that wouldn't make sense yes.

He also has that innocent scan, if Ulti is legit, so to be anti-town he would also need to be godfather

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~C~ FD
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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 11 - Ancient B8 Mafia History (2009-2011)
Forceful_Dragon
05/07/24 11:31:23 PM
#49
Meow1000 posted...
Corrik is an idiot and should be shunned for destabilizing the town when it was way ahead.

He is. And he should be.

But "Quidnapper" is objectively hilarious

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~C~ FD
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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 11 - Ancient B8 Mafia History (2009-2011)
Forceful_Dragon
05/07/24 11:29:45 PM
#47
PunishedBen posted...
I'm Neighborizer because Buddy desperately wants to join the study group, so wants to try and befriend people at night.

Ehhhhh

He's also literally the only character claimed to have only appeared in a single episode. There are SO many humorous characters in this show that appeared numerous times, why Buddy? Hell, Rich appeared in at least 3 episodes and he ALSO almost joined the study group, why not Rich.

but I told myself I was going to try not to get stuck on flavor -_-

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~C~ FD
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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 11 - Ancient B8 Mafia History (2009-2011)
Forceful_Dragon
05/07/24 11:19:55 PM
#41
Actually nvm I talked myself out of it. I was considering for a minute that ctes was stuffing his own pockets with votes. That he was removing his OWN votes at night and when he finally stops doing it he'll be able to cast extra votes that day.

But then I realized that would be pretty damn redundant with Lawyer.

Unless it's a scum or 3p effect and our Lawyer is the counterplay to it?
Like for example Ctes stuffs his pockets 4x, and then shows up randomly with 5 votes. But then Chang does his thing and boom, now he controls all 5 of ctes' votes?

I could see those as balancing roles

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~C~ FD
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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 11 - Ancient B8 Mafia History (2009-2011)
Forceful_Dragon
05/07/24 11:15:06 PM
#40
changmas posted...
maybe every time someone says his poem back he gets to remove ctes' vote lol

I still can't wrap my head around that. That's not an ability you show until you HAVE to use it. So whoever has that role must be COMPELLED to use it every night, otherwise why would they?

I have one other theory about it, but similar to letting MI's flavor (which I thought was BG) I think the less said about it in advance the better <_<

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~C~ FD
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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 11 - Ancient B8 Mafia History (2009-2011)
Forceful_Dragon
05/07/24 11:12:19 PM
#38
And Ben was in charge of picking the thing that needed to be repeated?

It is true that Ben was trying to be accepted into the Study Group, but that's kind of the reverse of a neighborizer. It was him wanted to join others, not him forcing others to join him. And when they decided they didn't want him they did have to drag him kicking and screaming from the room, but that didn't feel very Bp to me, versus characters like Chang or Starburns who at various times faked their own deaths.

I'll try to look at it more from a balance perspective than a flavor one in case i'm just being trapped, but it stands out in STARK contrast to everything else.

I mean I guess the other one close to that would be Ulti's Frankie Dart as Cop claim.

She's was literally only in the 6th Season, and though she was pretty important to that season she's just kind of like an efficient administrative person. Not especially Sleuth-y. But as tenuous as that one is it's 10x better than Buddy.

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~C~ FD
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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 11 - Ancient B8 Mafia History (2009-2011)
Forceful_Dragon
05/07/24 11:00:43 PM
#31
changmas posted...
I mean, frankly I never actually believed it would make Ben bulletproof. I thought it would make me join his cult (my pet theory was the GLEE CLUB), and I was okay with that. I still don't think he's scum. Maybe 3p with a strange win condition, but doubt scum.

Can you explain the poem shit for me?

It's something you had to say IN the neighbor chat, before it was closed?

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~C~ FD
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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 11 - Ancient B8 Mafia History (2009-2011)
Forceful_Dragon
05/07/24 10:58:35 PM
#29
And finally, a spreadsheet update:

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/4/4f555804.png

Did red ever claim flavor?

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~C~ FD
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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 11 - Ancient B8 Mafia History (2009-2011)
Forceful_Dragon
05/07/24 10:55:55 PM
#27
MZero posted...
Well Ben told me about it anyway so I knew it came from you lol

Dammit Ben.

Ideally you would have had no idea, targeted whoever the fuck and said to them "why did you give me a canister of "Love""

It's why I needed you to post before me today.

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~C~ FD
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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 11 - Ancient B8 Mafia History (2009-2011)
Forceful_Dragon
05/07/24 10:54:00 PM
#25
And I fucking knew MI was Magnitude, but I thought he might be Bodyguard. There is an important scene in Season 2 during a paintball episode where Magnitude jumps on a paint grenade to save everyone else in the room. The BG flavor practically rights itself. For Shame, Lea.

And Ben as Buddy, the Bulletproof Neighborizer? I press X to doubt on that shit. It's barely more than a jack black cameo, he's in ONE episode, shows NO characteristics that would allow him to not be killed (but he can do a wicked jump kick? It's Jack Black after all) and nothing that would make him neighborizer-y.

My money has him as either Ben Chang (at the height of his Changlorious Bastard ways) or Vice Dean Laybourne of the Air Conditioning School Annex. Both would make incredible 3rd party flavors,

Ben Chang "can't be killed"

Source:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jU4e8DV61I

And Vice Dean Laybourne has a way at getting at people. There is an entire arc where he recruits Troy to join the Air Conditioning repair school despite his unwillingness to participate.

Buddy is a flavor mess and maybe it's just the mother of all flavor traps, but holy shit is it just wrong for that role.

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~C~ FD
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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 11 - Ancient B8 Mafia History (2009-2011)
Forceful_Dragon
05/07/24 10:47:19 PM
#20
MZero posted...
it's okay, I taunted him so we wouldn't have gotten anything anyway lol me

Well shit. I spent several hours with my mom after work today so I WAS busy, but then I waited a little longer for MZero to check in because I wanted to test if he was really taunter based upon how he reacted to the day going up.

I wanted him to accuse the person he targeted of MY effect, but if he targeted the corpse (HOW many people targeted SBell last night ??) then that's not going to happen.

In any case MZero will be able to corroborate my claim, as well Ben, as well Chang.

I am Pierce Hawthorne, TOWN Love Vendor

My character is one of the main 7 in the study group, and at times he is an asshole, but at the end of the day he has loyalty and love for his friends and for Greendale.

At night I target someone and they are informed they received a Canister of "Love" (yes, love is in quotes and it's best not to understand why)

Night 1: Ben
Night 2: Chang
Night 3: MZero

Ben and Chang were first as fellow flavor experts I knew they would understand not only my acknowledgement when I gave them a wink during the day, but also the flavor that was implied by it. A Canister of "Love" is a uniquely Pierce thing and could belong to no other characters.

When day 2 went up I said this to Ben:

Forceful_Dragon posted...
Btw it's good to see you Ben

And he replied with a salute. Enough said.

When day 3 went up Chang posted before me and he said:

changmas posted...
I got love for everybody letting me have fun yesterday <3

I quoted that and said:

Forceful_Dragon posted...
You deserved it!

And if you look at my first post of the game and take the first letter of every sentence it spells CANISTER and the word love is bolded in the paragraph.

What does the canister do? Nothing of course, but when there was discussion about "maybe the Taunt redirected ALL actions" I leaned into that by saying I knew for a fact it didn't. It seemed like a good opportunity to potentially put myself on scum radar and eat a bullet, but alas. All my role actually accomplishes is confirming that I am in fact Pierce Hawthorne.

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~C~ FD
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TopicB8 Politics Containment Topic #1: Fuck Fandom
Forceful_Dragon
05/07/24 2:20:10 PM
#182
I'm seeing articles about a post he made today which was deleted shortly after posting:

I have just recently been told who the witness is today, Trump wrote in the hastily-deleted post on his Truth Social platform, according to screenshots of the text shared on social media. This is unprecedented, no time for lawyers to prepare. No Judge has ever run a trial in such a biased and partisan way.

I've read that his team does have a full list of witnesses, but that they order of the witnesses was not being provided in advance. So they idea that they only just found out Stormy would testify is false, they've known for months.

In any case I hope the fact that he quickly deleted this one doesn't mean he's not eligible to be held in contempt again. It's still something he personally put out there and is being circulated and reported on despite it's removal.

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~C~ FD
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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 10 - Night Kill School
Forceful_Dragon
05/06/24 5:59:46 PM
#126
If only for flavor reasons I absolutely doubt Quendra would be anything of the sort. If she is then Lea/Sultan were on shrooms when they made this game. She's a character who doesn't do anything.

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~C~ FD
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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 10 - Night Kill School
Forceful_Dragon
05/06/24 5:56:42 PM
#104
UltimaterializerX posted...
Is this still true when Corrik flips scum?

Yes. Regardless of alignment a red being active is better than a completely inactive red. I'm not convinced red is scum by any stretch, but he more than deserved my vote.

Activity > No Activity
always.

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~C~ FD
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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 10 - Night Kill School
Forceful_Dragon
05/06/24 5:54:29 PM
#97
Meow1000 posted...
I made it pretty clear hours ago I trusted the people on Red's train the least by a pretty meaningful margin.

your personal trust aside, that doesn't mean that the red train wasn't an objectively beneficial thing to have happened. We had more active players AFTER he had votes than we did before.

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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 10 - Night Kill School
Forceful_Dragon
05/06/24 5:48:59 PM
#91
Meow1000 posted...
Also his train was pretty awful and had 3 players on the lower end of the trust spectrum on it.

What the hell at this though? Red had done fuck all until he had 3 votes and he has more than quadrupled his game output since last night. We should have voted him sooner if it meant he was going to play the game.

I'm still not convinced he's town from his newfound activity, but he sure as shit isn't coasting anymore so at least that's a step in the right direction.

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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 10 - Night Kill School
Forceful_Dragon
05/06/24 5:45:24 PM
#85
inb4 the confession is "I hate you guys "

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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 10 - Night Kill School
Forceful_Dragon
05/06/24 5:43:39 PM
#76
tbh Blade I sympathize with Ben. On day 1 I gave my thoughts on non-Knightz lynches (while still pushing Knightz) and was given shit for it. We absolutely should do more than just settle on the "obvious" lynch immediately and do nothing else all day and I feel like that's what ended up happening.

But beyond that it's just a matter of tone and if you really believe he wasn't trying to kill red or not.

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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 10 - Night Kill School
Forceful_Dragon
05/06/24 5:38:18 PM
#59
Meow1000 posted...
What Ben did, however, was so much worse that there's really no town justification for it at all.

I haven't seen this yet, what was it?

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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 10 - Night Kill School
Forceful_Dragon
05/06/24 5:37:39 PM
#55
Corrik7 posted...
If this maintains and I don't get distracted by my kids baseball game stream, I will have a confession at 5 mins til.

Will there be an audio/visual component?


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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 10 - Night Kill School
Forceful_Dragon
05/06/24 5:30:40 PM
#42
Just got off work and there are a damn lot of posts. Gonna try and catch up before EoD. I see corrik surged ahead which I'm fine with

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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 9 - Therapeutical Applications of Nooses
Forceful_Dragon
05/06/24 11:16:55 AM
#186
Corrik7 posted...
There isn't even any line of reasoning for why the people supposedly "confirmed" are the ones "confirmed" either.

The implication seems to be that ulti has a scan that is above reproach and somehow immune to godfather fear. And I was fine to let him play his mind games before he started insisting even more aggressively that we should be considering ctes and death confirmed base only on his non elaborate say-so.

If it's not legit then he's giving two people a pass for no reason and just generally putting unnecessary chaos into the day. If it is legit then we feel far enough ahead that I don't see much downside to having our with it.

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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 9 - Therapeutical Applications of Nooses
Forceful_Dragon
05/06/24 11:11:06 AM
#183
Kirby321 posted...
Good on Ulti for not claiming until Corrik flips. Nothing about Corrik should be taken seriously until we know his alignment for certain.

In all seriousness though, I have no issue with a Corrik lynch. I'm just not going to stop looking for scum outside of him.

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