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Topic | All Purpose Horror Topic 2018: so Suspiria was fucking weird (again) |
Johnbobb 12/30/20 9:55:09 PM #497 | I wasn't thinking of I'm Thinking of Ending Things as horror but that's easily my film of the year, it's incredible And forgot Horse Girl, that would be in the Flawed but Enjoyable category --- Khal Kirby, warlord of the Super Star Khalasar PSN/Steam: CheddarBBQ https://goo.gl/Diw2hs |
Topic | All Purpose Horror Topic 2018: so Suspiria was fucking weird (again) |
Johnbobb 12/30/20 8:26:23 PM #495 | Every horror (and thriller) I've seen this year ranked fuck you guys new mutants is awesome The New Mutants Great Scare Me His House The Lodge The Devil All The Time Possessor Flawed but enjoyable The Babysitter: Killer Queen Color Out of Space The Invisible Man The Platform Come to Daddy Ok, not a must see #Alive Antebellum The Rental Save Yourselves! (this is mostly comedy though) Pretty bad Unhinged The Hunt Fantasy Island Not our best year for horror movies, to no big surprise given how many delays there were, but a decent handful snuck in there to take a chance on some really creative ideas --- Khal Kirby, warlord of the Super Star Khalasar PSN/Steam: CheddarBBQ https://goo.gl/Diw2hs |
Topic | All Purpose Horror Topic 2018: so Suspiria was fucking weird (again) |
Johnbobb 12/30/20 3:57:15 PM #493 | Cavedweller2000 posted... I've probably understood only 10% of the posts in this topic lolhalf of them are just bots bumping with random posts. Ideally we'd just have them catered specifically to horror... GTN posted... But then you miss out on the surprise flavours --- Khal Kirby, warlord of the Super Star Khalasar PSN/Steam: CheddarBBQ https://goo.gl/Diw2hs |
Topic | All Purpose Horror Topic 2018: so Suspiria was fucking weird (again) |
Johnbobb 12/30/20 2:51:43 PM #490 | There's 10 posts left to go to hit 500 and one day left this year --- Khal Kirby, warlord of the Super Star Khalasar PSN/Steam: CheddarBBQ https://goo.gl/Diw2hs |
Topic | All Purpose Horror Topic 2018: so Suspiria was fucking weird (again) |
Johnbobb 12/30/20 2:51:22 PM #489 | kaleee posted... need a list of all fuckable pokemonbest horror post of the year --- Khal Kirby, warlord of the Super Star Khalasar PSN/Steam: CheddarBBQ https://goo.gl/Diw2hs |
Topic | All Purpose Horror Topic 2018: so Suspiria was fucking weird (again) |
Johnbobb 11/24/20 5:40:38 PM #482 | Just watched It Comes At Night It was ok. Definitely some good there but I feel like it tried so hard to leave things open to interpretation that it ended up losing some substance because of it --- Khal Kirby, warlord of the Super Star Khalasar PSN/Steam: CheddarBBQ https://goo.gl/Diw2hs |
Topic | All Purpose Horror Topic 2018: so Suspiria was fucking weird (again) |
Johnbobb 11/03/20 11:32:02 PM #472 | watched Scare Me tonight great pick for a fun, spooky night. Very low budget, just a couple people telling spooky stories in a cabin, with most of the style coming from the actors' voice acting and sound effects. Goes back and forth between horror and comedy, and Aya Cash and Josh Ruben are both excellent and totally in their element --- Khal Kirby, warlord of the Super Star Khalasar PSN/Steam: CheddarBBQ https://goo.gl/Diw2hs |
Topic | All Purpose Horror Topic 2018: so Suspiria was fucking weird (again) |
Johnbobb 11/02/20 11:41:24 AM #470 | Just watched both Babysitter movies The first was a blast. Samara Weaving is incredible and while the movie was super cheesy I really enjoyed watching it The second wasn't nearly as good as the first, but had plenty of laugh out loud moments, even it logically doesn't make much sense and requires suspension of disbelief more than literally any other movie I've seen --- Khal Kirby, warlord of the Super Star Khalasar PSN/Steam: CheddarBBQ https://goo.gl/Diw2hs |
Topic | All Purpose Horror Topic 2018: so Suspiria was fucking weird (again) |
Johnbobb 10/19/20 10:35:07 PM #465 | Finally watched Creep Really good but I also find it hard to feel bad for the victim given how he made every terrible decision --- Khal Kirby, warlord of the Super Star Khalasar PSN/Steam: CheddarBBQ https://goo.gl/Diw2hs |
Topic | All Purpose Horror Topic 2018: so Suspiria was fucking weird (again) |
Johnbobb 10/13/20 10:03:48 PM #462 | Recommend you guys check out Possessor from David Cronenberg's son really fucking disturbing --- Khal Kirby, warlord of the Super Star Khalasar PSN/Steam: CheddarBBQ https://goo.gl/Diw2hs |
Topic | All Purpose Horror Topic 2018: so Suspiria was fucking weird (again) |
Johnbobb 09/01/20 10:22:13 PM #450 | oh it's out already? --- Khal Kirby, warlord of the Super Star Khalasar PSN/Steam: CheddarBBQ https://goo.gl/Diw2hs |
Topic | All Purpose Horror Topic 2018: so Suspiria was fucking weird (again) |
Johnbobb 05/07/20 3:57:53 PM #415 | Just watched The Platform on Netflix Pretty good! Definitely better than I thought it'd be. Reminds me a lot of Cube with its grimy industrial feel and pretty brutal violence --- Khal Kirby, warlord of the Super Star Khalasar PSN/Steam: CheddarBBQ https://goo.gl/Diw2hs |
Topic | All Purpose Horror Topic 2018: so Suspiria was fucking weird (again) |
Johnbobb 03/23/20 11:36:17 AM #399 | Corrik7 posted... This movie was so slow I had to watch it in pieces because I kept getting tired (this might just be me lately though because even the game I am playing is the same lately).That's been me lately. I've had a few times this week I fell asleep watching movies, even when they were ones I really liked. --- Khal Kirby, warlord of the Super Star Khalasar PSN/Steam: CheddarBBQ https://goo.gl/Diw2hs |
Topic | All Purpose Horror Topic 2018: so Suspiria was fucking weird (again) |
Johnbobb 03/23/20 9:21:35 AM #397 | Corrik7 posted... Hmmm I watched the lighthouse.Thoughts? --- Khal Kirby, warlord of the Super Star Khalasar PSN/Steam: CheddarBBQ https://goo.gl/Diw2hs |
Topic | All Purpose Horror Topic 2018: so Suspiria was fucking weird (again) |
Johnbobb 03/22/20 6:00:57 PM #390 | Corrik7 posted... Is that movie any good? I had some trouble getting through the first 5 minutes lol.The Lighthouse is one of the best horror movies of the decade --- Khal Kirby, warlord of the Super Star Khalasar PSN/Steam: CheddarBBQ https://goo.gl/Diw2hs |
Topic | All Purpose Horror Topic 2018: so Suspiria was fucking weird (again) |
Johnbobb 03/01/20 9:58:52 AM #378 | I do like Raw a lot as well but I can definitely understand someone not liking it --- Khal Kirby, warlord of the Super Star Khalasar PSN/Steam: CheddarBBQ https://goo.gl/Diw2hs |
Topic | All Purpose Horror Topic 2018: so Suspiria was fucking weird (again) |
Johnbobb 02/27/20 10:04:29 PM #372 | Went to see Fantasy Island it was super dumb but a fun time made no goddamn sense and constantly contradicted its own logic and absolutely goes real dumb with some of the twists. --- Khal Kirby, warlord of the Super Star Khalasar PSN/Steam: CheddarBBQ https://goo.gl/Diw2hs |
Topic | All Purpose Horror Topic 2018: so Suspiria was fucking weird (again) |
Johnbobb 02/26/20 6:23:55 PM #370 | Snake5555555555 posted... Good lukc with Fantasy Island charon, I"ve heard it's like Truth or Dare levels of bad.This is literally the exact reason I plan to go see it. Truth or Dare was honestly so bad it's good --- Khal Kirby, warlord of the Super Star Khalasar PSN/Steam: CheddarBBQ https://goo.gl/Diw2hs |
Topic | All Purpose Horror Topic 2018: so Suspiria was fucking weird (again) |
Johnbobb 01/21/20 9:57:12 PM #351 | I also did not know about that --- Khal Kirby, warlord of the Super Star Khalasar PSN/Steam: CheddarBBQ https://goo.gl/Diw2hs |
Topic | All Purpose Horror Topic 2018: so Suspiria was fucking weird (again) |
Johnbobb 01/15/20 8:49:48 PM #346 | Knives and Skin watched ...it's not worth your time. Bad acting, HORRIBLE HORRIBLE writing. --- Khal Kirby, warlord of the Super Star Khalasar PSN/Steam: CheddarBBQ https://goo.gl/Diw2hs |
Topic | All Purpose Horror Topic 2018: so Suspiria was fucking weird (again) |
Johnbobb 01/14/20 1:15:23 AM #343 | also just in case anyone was planning on sleeping tonight, here's this as a reminder https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mg0bvyIEHcs --- Khal Kirby, warlord of the Super Star Khalasar PSN/Steam: CheddarBBQ https://goo.gl/Diw2hs |
Topic | All Purpose Horror Topic 2018: so Suspiria was fucking weird (again) |
Johnbobb 01/14/20 1:10:50 AM #342 | Yeah Annihilation is definitely thriller enough for this topic and it's a fucking fantastic movie --- Khal Kirby, warlord of the Super Star Khalasar PSN/Steam: CheddarBBQ https://goo.gl/Diw2hs |
Topic | All Purpose Horror Topic 2018: so Suspiria was fucking weird (again) |
Johnbobb 01/13/20 1:47:06 PM #337 | man it hurts how much the Academy dislikes horror if it's not literally a cultural phenomenon like Get Out was, it has no chance --- Khal Kirby, warlord of the Super Star Khalasar PSN/Steam: CheddarBBQ https://goo.gl/Diw2hs |
Topic | All Purpose Horror Topic 2018: so Suspiria was fucking weird (again) |
Johnbobb 01/12/20 6:43:02 AM #334 | I mean I can see why you might not like it but it's also hard to imagine being this surprised people like it, given the things it does pretty objectively well; impressive acting, incredible cinematography, great production design. If nothing else the design alone is reason enough to like it --- Khal Kirby, warlord of the Super Star Khalasar PSN/Steam: CheddarBBQ https://goo.gl/Diw2hs |
Topic | All Purpose Horror Topic 2018: so Suspiria was fucking weird (again) |
Johnbobb 01/11/20 8:29:10 PM #332 | Just watched One Cut of the Dead Not what I thought it was going to be at all, and I loved it I think I'd rank it just under Ready or Not --- Khal Kirby, warlord of the Super Star Khalasar PSN/Steam: CheddarBBQ https://goo.gl/Diw2hs |
Topic | All Purpose Horror Topic 2018: so Suspiria was fucking weird (again) |
Johnbobb 01/11/20 6:33:37 AM #331 | Just watched The Banana Splits Movie. Squeezes somewhere between decent and mediocre. It's definitely entertaining enough in it's weird, excessive violence, but also kinda feels a bit over-inspired by FNAF and feels kinda run of the mill at times --- Khal Kirby, warlord of the Super Star Khalasar PSN/Steam: CheddarBBQ https://goo.gl/Diw2hs |
Topic | All Purpose Horror Topic 2018: so Suspiria was fucking weird (again) |
Johnbobb 01/11/20 6:30:51 AM #330 | jcgamer107 posted... Already watched Lighthouse a 2nd time lol. I really hope it and Midsommar just get a shitload of Oscar noms, but unlikely.Super unlikely, which is a travesty --- Khal Kirby, warlord of the Super Star Khalasar PSN/Steam: CheddarBBQ https://goo.gl/Diw2hs |
Topic | All Purpose Horror Topic 2018: so Suspiria was fucking weird (again) |
Johnbobb 01/09/20 5:29:57 PM #324 | PrivateBiscuit1 posted... Oh my God Velvet Buzzsaw. Snake5555555555 posted... Me too, I was really excited for it and I was gonna watch it one night but didn't and then promptly forgot about it.I really recommend watching it, as it's totally worth your time for Jake Gyllenhaal alone, just don't get your hopes up to high. It's a fun time, but it's definitely no Nightcrawler --- Khal Kirby, warlord of the Super Star Khalasar PSN/Steam: CheddarBBQ https://goo.gl/Diw2hs |
Topic | All Purpose Horror Topic 2018: so Suspiria was fucking weird (again) |
Johnbobb 01/09/20 5:28:44 PM #323 | a few worth talking about The Lighthouse is so goddamn incredible in every way. Two actors, one long-established and one only recently starting to make a name for himself as a serious actor, both at the absolute top of their game. Incredible sound design and lighting design and production design and camera work. Top notch writing that is at the same time intriguing and thrilling and sureal. Bizarre and provocative imagery, the constant question of what's real and not without ever letting up for a moment. I've been thinking about this movie constantly for months now. This is pretty close to exactly what I want from a horror movie, and honestly just from a movie in general. Doctor Sleep was one I had both high hopes and high worries for, but like Snake pointed out, I think it mostly succeeded. It's no The Shining, but that was perhaps too high of a bar for it to ever really live up to. Ewan McGregor and Kyliegh Curran were both great, and I loved the way it portrayed psychic power. The highlight for me is when both Rose the Hat and the viewers get an immediate demonstration of Abra's power. A flawed movie, but very good regardless. Ready or Not was probably the biggest surprise for me. I feel like this admittedly gimmicky concept easily could've been another Truth or Dare, but it was just a TON of fun thanks to a great sense of humor and Samara Weaving's excellent performance. Freaks almost fell completely under the radar for me. Can't remember where I found out about it actually, but it's definitely worth checking out if you can find it. It filled the hole that the lack of New Mutants has had for me, and nicely captures both a bizarre feeling of paranoia and a dark take on the supernatural. The Perfection was cheesy and kind of dumb and had a lot of issues but I also had a really fun time with it. Glass and Velvet Buzzsaw were both movies I had really high hopes for but, while they weren't bad, they both kinda missed the mark. Glass is fun as a sort of dark superhero flick but doesn't hold the same weight as either Unbreakable or Split. Velvet Buzzsaw had the benefit of an incredible performance by Jake Gyllenhaal, as well as a loaded cast and some interesting ideas, but didn't quite follow through on the execution. Fuck Hellboy. Fuck it so hard. Jesus Christ why the fuck would they do that. Nobody that isn't Guillermo del Toro or Ron Perlman is allowed to touch this franchise ever again. Fuck you Neil Marshall, how do you go from The Descent, to Doomsday, to two of Game of Thrones' best episodes, to this unforgiveable piece of shit movie. --- Khal Kirby, warlord of the Super Star Khalasar PSN/Steam: CheddarBBQ https://goo.gl/Diw2hs |
Topic | All Purpose Horror Topic 2018: so Suspiria was fucking weird (again) |
Johnbobb 01/09/20 5:12:50 PM #320 | my end of year wrapup Plan to See Soon One Cut of the Dead The Banana Splits Movie Knives and Skin My favorite movie of the year and legitimately might be my favorite horror movie of the decade The Lighthouse Fantastic: Midsommar Us Doctor Sleep Ready or Not Pretty Great: Freaks IT Chapter Two The Perfection The Wind Velvet Buzzsaw Decent: Glass In The Tall Grass Scary Stories to Tell in the Dark 3 From Hell Mediocre: In Fabric Brightburn Happy Death Day 2U Escape Room Crawl Bad: Pet Sematary Countdown Dear god what the fuck did they do to my beloved franchise Hellboy --- Khal Kirby, warlord of the Super Star Khalasar PSN/Steam: CheddarBBQ https://goo.gl/Diw2hs |
Topic | All Purpose Horror Topic 2018: so Suspiria was fucking weird (again) |
Johnbobb 01/07/20 8:50:16 AM #315 | Holy shit that's actually fitting for a horror topic --- Khal Kirby, warlord of the Super Star Khalasar PSN/Steam: CheddarBBQ https://goo.gl/Diw2hs |
Topic | All Purpose Horror Topic 2018: so Suspiria was fucking weird (again) |
Johnbobb 12/31/19 6:34:25 PM #313 | PrivateBiscuit1 posted... It feels unfair calling Parasite a thriller, imo. It felt more like a drama for like 90% of the movie.fair enough; I was really debating including it --- Khal Kirby, warlord of the Super Star Khalasar PSN/Steam: CheddarBBQ https://goo.gl/Diw2hs |
Topic | All Purpose Horror Topic 2018: so Suspiria was fucking weird (again) |
Johnbobb 12/31/19 5:20:12 PM #311 | torn on whether I want to include thrillers because it'll significantly change the list. Think I'll go with separate lists for each Horror
Split Us 10 Cloverfield Lane Mandy Don't Breathe A Quiet Place Hereditary Thriller
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Topic | All Purpose Horror Topic 2018: so Suspiria was fucking weird (again) |
Johnbobb 12/29/19 11:34:52 PM #304 | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D05YjZmVSI --- Khal Kirby, warlord of the Super Star Khalasar PSN/Steam: CheddarBBQ https://goo.gl/Diw2hs |
Topic | All Purpose Horror Topic 2018: so Suspiria was fucking weird (again) |
Johnbobb 11/05/19 6:43:52 PM #285 | The Lighthouse is fucking incredible easily the best horror/thriller experience of the year so far. This is like David Lynch in his prime levels of dark and disturbing --- Khal Kirby, warlord of the Super Star Khalasar PSN/Steam: CheddarBBQ https://goo.gl/Diw2hs |
Topic | All Purpose Horror Topic 2018: so Suspiria was fucking weird (again) |
Johnbobb 10/27/19 10:32:11 AM #283 | Dude nice! --- Khal Kirby, warlord of the Super Star Khalasar PSN/Steam: CheddarBBQ https://goo.gl/Diw2hs |
Topic | All Purpose Horror Topic 2018: so Suspiria was fucking weird (again) |
Johnbobb 10/24/19 7:18:32 PM #281 | Snake5555555555 posted... That is really nice! jcgamer107 posted... One of the best Halloween baskets of the decade Thanks! --- Khal Kirby, warlord of the Super Star Khalasar PSN/Steam: CheddarBBQ https://goo.gl/Diw2hs |
Topic | All Purpose Horror Topic 2018: so Suspiria was fucking weird (again) |
Johnbobb 10/22/19 2:39:17 PM #278 | Put together a Halloween basket to surprise my girlfriend --- Khal Kirby, warlord of the Super Star Khalasar PSN/Steam: CheddarBBQ https://goo.gl/Diw2hs |
Topic | All Purpose Horror Topic 2018: so Suspiria was fucking weird (again) |
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Topic | All Purpose Horror Topic 2018: so Suspiria was fucking weird (again) |
Johnbobb 09/19/19 5:10:42 PM #260 | man I'm so behind on AHS last I finished was Roanoke which I wasn't super into --- Khal Kirby, warlord of the Super Star Khalasar PSN/Steam: CheddarBBQ https://goo.gl/Diw2hs |
Topic | All Purpose Horror Topic 2018: so Suspiria was fucking weird (again) |
Johnbobb 09/16/19 1:43:41 PM #258 | Snake5555555555 posted... https://www.reddit.com/r/cursedimages/ why --- Khal Kirby, warlord of the Super Star Khalasar PSN/Steam: CheddarBBQ https://goo.gl/Diw2hs |
Topic | All Purpose Horror Topic 2018: so Suspiria was fucking weird (again) |
Johnbobb 09/02/19 12:59:07 PM #248 | jcgamer107 posted... I third Ready or Not - awesome that it dared to be both intense/brutal, and fun/funny. yeah, that's one of the things I really liked about it it was a horror comedy that went hard on both the horror AND comedy instead of favoring one or the other --- Khal Kirby, warlord of the Super Star Khalasar PSN/Steam: CheddarBBQ https://goo.gl/Diw2hs |
Topic | All Purpose Horror Topic 2018: so Suspiria was fucking weird (again) |
Johnbobb 08/25/19 11:35:53 PM #244 | went to see Ready or Not It was really good and the ending was great --- Khal Kirby, warlord of the Super Star Khalasar PSN/Steam: CheddarBBQ https://goo.gl/Diw2hs |
Topic | All Purpose Horror Topic 2018: so Suspiria was fucking weird (again) |
Johnbobb 08/23/19 10:09:02 PM #241 | Us Midsommar The Perfection I Am Mother (more scifi though) Velvet Buzzsaw Glass Scary Stories to Tell in the Dark Happy Death Day 2U Brightburn Crawl Escape Room Pet Sematary -big gap- Hellboy gotta agree with Snake though, weak year for horror so far. Us and Midsommar are great, The Perfection through Glass were decent, and everything below was pretty disappointing. Velvet Buzzsaw was kinda disappointing too, but Jake Gyllenhaal was incredible in it so I'll give it a pass here's hoping Ready or Not lives up to the hype --- Khal Kirby, warlord of the Super Star Khalasar PSN/Steam: CheddarBBQ https://goo.gl/Diw2hs |
Topic | All Purpose Horror Topic 2018: so Suspiria was fucking weird (again) |
Johnbobb 08/23/19 8:30:02 PM #235 | Saw both Scary Stories and Brightburn this week Scary Stories is creative and really creepy, but also kind of aimed at kids and inconsistent in tone. Overall pretty alright. Brightburn is... kind of a waste of really good potential. It's a great concept with really dark tones and some cool action effects but it's just really, really dumb from a writing standpoint. Tons of plotholes and an unwillingness to really make the effort --- Khal Kirby, warlord of the Super Star Khalasar PSN/Steam: CheddarBBQ https://goo.gl/Diw2hs |
Topic | All Purpose Horror Topic 2018: so Suspiria was fucking weird (again) |
Johnbobb 08/04/19 4:01:31 PM #230 | Saw Crawl earlier this week it's fine. Pretty great practical weather effects but pretty terrible CGI. Decent action but flat characters and overused jumpscares --- Khal Kirby, warlord of the Super Star Khalasar PSN/Steam: CheddarBBQ https://goo.gl/Diw2hs |
Topic | All Purpose Horror Topic 2018: so Suspiria was fucking weird (again) |
Johnbobb 07/15/19 11:20:58 AM #224 | reposting from Movie Discussion Topic Johnbobb posted... Pet Sematary was a book I never really thought would translate that well into a movie, and now two movies later I still stand by that. I think it would make for a really neat Twilight Zone/Black Mirror episode, but just doesn't really have enough plot to fill the runtime, and isn't deep enough to use the time for quiet reflection. It's especially hurt by the fact that the big "twist" 2/3s of the way into the movie everyone already knew was coming because 1. the story is 36 years old and 2. it's literally in the trailer. Changing up that last 3rd doesn't really add anything of substance to what was already a substance-lite movie. --- Khal Kirby, warlord of the Super Star Khalasar PSN/Steam: CheddarBBQ https://goo.gl/Diw2hs |
Topic | All Purpose Horror Topic 2018: so Suspiria was fucking weird (again) |
Johnbobb 07/05/19 9:04:38 PM #219 | oh I never talked about Midsommar like I wanted to Pros: +General direction/cinematography is incredible. Seriously, between this and Hereditary, Ari Aster has some of the best camerawork of any modern director +Production design is also top tier +Florence Hugh is incredible +The film manages to be eerie and disturbing despite being set almost entirely during the daytime, which isn't easy to pull off +Surprisingly funny enough to make the whole theater laugh consistently, which I definitely didn't expect going in Cons -Honestly, it's pretty predictable, which is weird given how out there some of it is. None of the twists are really twists -Ari Aster is getting dangerously close to becoming a one trick pony, given how - - I know I'm being pretty harsh on it but I did honestly really enjoy it, largely due to the excellent acting/cinematography/design/etc. It's a flawed movie but what it does right it absolutely nails. --- Khal Kirby, warlord of the Super Star Khalasar PSN/Steam: CheddarBBQ https://goo.gl/Diw2hs |
Topic | All Purpose Horror Topic 2018: so Suspiria was fucking weird (again) |
Johnbobb 07/03/19 11:09:05 AM #217 | Also saw midsommar last night and will talk about it after work --- Khal Kirby, warlord of the Super Star Khalasar PSN/Steam: CheddarBBQ https://goo.gl/Diw2hs |
Topic | All Purpose Horror Topic 2018: so Suspiria was fucking weird (again) |
Johnbobb 06/28/19 7:43:56 PM #212 | Midsommar looks great also just watched The Perfection on Netflix, which was a little cheesy and over-the-top --- Khal Kirby, warlord of the Super Star Khalasar PSN/Steam: CheddarBBQ https://goo.gl/Diw2hs |
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