Lurker > Johnbobb

that final fight between Aang and Ozai is probably among my all-time favorite fight scenes

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TOP 10 IN A NEW TOPIC

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/78917259

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azuarc posted...

Just missed the top 10. Considering I only had 2 songs, I ought to be happy with that. When MotN didn't go out sooner, I thought maybe it just clicked for Johnbobb, but as I predicted, the villainy was ultimately the weak point. Am I correct in assuming this probably fared better in your score system than the title track would have?

Probably, yeah. The Phantom of the Opera is probably an easy 10/10 on melody, but it's also scores lower on villainy than Music of the Night. Overall it'd still do very good I think, but I'd have to read over the lyrics again.

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trdl23 posted...

I acknowledge this, but that doesnt mean my stance will evolve on it (just like I remain squicky about Lolita in anime circles). It just means I am going to complain about it on a niche video game message board instead of irl or in dedicated communities.

I cannot imagine anything less fun than trying to argue about "lolita" irl

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Bane_Of_Despair posted...

this just makes you sound old and out of touch tbh, language can tweak and evolve meaning even when acknowledging its original source

https://thornygames.com/pages/dialect

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wallmasterz posted...

What is you favorite song from phantom? All I Ask Of You?

oof, that's a tough one. I really want to say the self-titled song because I just really fuckin love that opening organ. Music of the Night is definitely up there, as is All I Ask of You. Masquerade/Why So Silent also gets an HM for being the best to see performed

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With that

Your Top 10

Great Paul - Hunchback of Notre Dame - Hellfire

Uglyface2 - Pink Floyd - Waiting for the Worms

Snake5555555555 - Slayer - Dead Skin Mask

Xeybozn - Hamilton - You'll Be Back

BetrayedTangy - Starship - Kick It Up a Notch

Bane - clipping. - Run for Your Life

TheArkOfTurus - The Mountain Goats - Werewolf Gimmick

Jesse Custer - Talking Heads - Psycho Killer

Player 0 - Eminem - Stan

UF8 - Umineko - Egurite


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Bane_Of_Despair posted...

oooo just barely held out for last person with multiple songs left I think, I'll take it!

Yup! Every song in the top 10 was nominated by a different person.

It should also be noted that the minimum total for any song in the top 10 is 24/30, meaning that every song remaining had to have at least an average of 8/10 per category.

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11. Music of the Night
Source: Phantom of the Opera
Villain: The Phantom
Nominator: azuarc (ELIMINATED)
Favorite lyric: Floating, falling, sweet intoxication / Touch me, trust me, savor each sensation / Let the dream begin, let your darker side give in / To the power of the music that I write

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCAdkACAH78

Villainy: 6
Characterization: 9
Melody: 8
Total: 23/30

I do love Phantom of the Opera, and it ultimately hurts me to leave it just outside of the top 10, because this, like most songs in this musical, is quite good (though admittedly the quality varies version to version of course, the songwriting is consistently excellent). Norm Lewis (one of the like 50 people to play the Phantom) does an incredible job here, showing off amazing range in just over two minutes. It's not my favorite song from the musical, though it is quite good. While Music of the Night does a great job of showing off the Phantom's lust, darkness, and flare for the dramatic, ranking it in terms of villainy is much more difficult given that most of the dark themes are implied. One of the best thigns about the songwriting is in fact that it's not clear what exactly the Phantom's intentions are. He's trying to seduce her, yes, but how and for what purpose is up for interpretation. Lines like "Only then can you belong to me" and "Floating, falling, sweet intoxication" draw into question just how consensual this seduction is. As a listener, part of you sympathizes with The Phantom and wants to take the lure he's dropped, but another part feels as though this is just a trap, and questions whether Christine will actually be free if she doesn't accept The Phantom's proposal. Really just a fantastic song.

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12. In the Dark of the Night
Source: Anastasia
Villain: Rasputin
Nominator: Bane (1 left)
Favorite lyric:In the dark of the night terror will strike her! Terror's the least I can do! / In the dark of the night evil will brew.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ocm8QdNR_d8

Villainy: 9
Characterization: 7
Melody: 7
Total: 23/30

I love Jim Cummings. He's one of the best things to happen to animated film, up there with Sterling Holloway, Jodi Benson, Robin Williams, John Fielder, etc. While the melody of the song itself is decent, it's really Cummings' iconic voice that sells it. I've still never seen Anastasia, but honestly this song (in combination with the visual style and Christopher Lloyd) definitely make me compelled to check it out. Everything about this just screams classic Disney, despite the fact that it's technically not Disney (although now Disney owns Fox so it IS Disney, go figure). Rasputin is pretty much the definition of over-the-top evil, going to every length to terrorize and assumedy kill Anastasia to the point of obsession. Thankfully he even gives a little bit of backstory at the beginning to catch up people like me! It's just a catchy, dark song that would easily stand against the best of the Disney rennaissance.

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Also thinking I might just make a new topic for the top 10 after the next two rankings, since we're currently so close to 500. I could possibly squeeze the rest in before we hit 500 but it'll be real dumb if it ends up closing with like 2 left.

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Toxtricity posted...

thats a really negative writeup for something this high lol. personally i kinda like comedic interruptions in musicals and stuff but even with that said i'd probably like this particular one more without them. but I'm glad 2 of my picks did extremely well even if the first two went out early. and I'm glad you liked Exiled and Other Friends musically especially at least!

honestly I expected My Lullaby/Other Friends to be the top two, they're the most tradiationally "villain songs" songs i picked, which is more what you were looking for, but I didn't expect them to be way above my other picks by that far a margin haha

I'd say spinel/glados/saavedro are all 3 of my favorite characters of all time, so I'm glad they got to be represented here in a list about villains like this. and My Lullaby's probably just my #1 favorite disney song or even just favorite 'musical film' song of all time. so thanks for listening : )

Eh, I mostly just had to harsh on that one thing, because it was like the one thing that brought down an otherwise excellent song. We're also at the point of the ranking where everything remaining is pretty top notch as a villain song, so it's easier to focus on what kept the songs from reaching the very very top.

While I admittedly didn't care for Victims of Science, all the rest of your nominations were super enjoyable, and I still get the chorus from Exiled stuck in my head all the time.

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13. I'm the Bad Guy
Source: Wander Over Yonder
Villain: Lord Dominator
Nominator: Player 0 (1 left)
Favorite lyric: I've always had a weakness/ For barrenness and bleakness. / I crush all your hopes and then I watch you cry.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiPX-Rcv5ls

Villainy: 10
Characterization: 7
Melody: 6
Total: 23/30

"Oh my grop! She's not trying to conquer the galaxy so she can rule it! She wants to destroy it! Man, that's evil!

Gotta admit, of all things, I never expected to be giving a 10 villainy score to a song from a Disney XD show. Wander Over Yonder seems like it's made primarily for kids, but then here we go with this Thanos-level universal threat. Remember two rankings ago, when Ar Ciel just barely missed the 10 because despite wanting to destroy all life, the Wills at least had somewhat of a sympathetic side, even if it was tiny and drastically misguided. That's not the case here! As the main character says himself, Lord Dominator is just straight evil. It once again falls into the weakspot of interrupting the song to be goofy, but overall the song is still fun and Lord Dominator has a surprisingly pleasant voice without the helmet on. I also had to give a slight bonus for characterization as she opens the song by tearing down sexist misconceptions of herself.

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14. My Lullaby
Source: The Lion King 2: Simba's Pride
Villain: Zira
Nominator: Toxtricity (ELIMINATED)
Favorite lyric: The sound of Simba's dying gasp / His daughter squealing in my grasp / His lionesses' mournful cry / That's my lullaby

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cx_G4TfC3Sk

Villainy: 9
Characterization: 8
Melody: 6
Total: 23/30

Disney really needs to just let their villains have their songs without constantly interrupting them with side characters for humor. It's like just when dramatic tension is hitting its peak, just as Suzanne Pleshette is really stealing the moment and sending chills down our spine, WHOOP HERE COMES ANDY DICK because we can't just have a single serious moment. And no, Andy Dick can't really sing, even in brief moments like this, and he brings down what is otherwise, for the most part, an excellent villain song. The fact that this came from a direct-to-video Disney sequel is wild, because it's easily one of the better Disney villain songs overall. It's interesting to compare this with Scar's "Be Prepared." While Scar had an actual plan in place for his view of the kingdom, Zira doesn't seem to care much at all about ruling or establishing order. Scar wanted to establish himself as king and was willing to do the dirty work to get there, whereas for Zira, the dirty work IS the goal. If Scar is Lex Luthor, Zira is the Joker, wanting nothing more than to inflict chaos and pain onto Simba's family by whatever means necessary. She's not doing this herself, however, she plans on raising her innocent son with the express goal of being her weapon of mass destruction, and that shit is evil.

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15. XaaaCi
Source: Ar tonelico Qoga
Villain: The Wills of Ar Ciel
Nominator: Zyxyz (ELIMINATED)
Favorite lyric: My children that have separated yourselves from my own feelings, body and life / I'll now paint my own self with your blood

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vcn-y6ZTthQ

Villainy: 9
Characterization: 9
Melody: 5
Total: 23/30

I went into this project knowing literally nothing about Ar Tonelico. Now, after ranking three songs... well, I still know barely anything about Art Tonelico beyond the fact that it's really fuckin complex to an outsider and has some really interesting musical lore. All three of the songs nominated from the series ended up scoring 9-10 on characterization because this series is shockingly good at fitting a lot of intriguing exposition and emotional depth into a single song. XaaaCi is no different. As far as I can tell, this song is essentially being sung from the perspective of the manifested consciousness of the earth itself. Kind of like the movie Mother! but with more synth and less Kristen Wiig. And Ar Ciel has a LOT of feelings happening at once. The Wills seem to have decided to full on eliminate all life on earth and reduce all beings to nothing but bloodshed, which almost earned this song the easiest 10/10 villainy score of the contest, if only it had stopped there. But the Wills are also deeply saddened, and seem to believe that this act is less so one of revenge and terror and moreso one of compassion, returning humanity back to where it came from and where they feel it belongs. I mean the lyrics are so conflicted that clearly there is that little bit of good intention there behind what is literally mass genocide. "That's why I'll return you all to nothing. That's why I'll annihilate you all. So there may be rebirth for the life, so we may have a future." Goddamn dude, that's heavy. Unfortunately this song didn't click with me musically as much as the other two from this series, though this strikes me much more as a song that belongs in a final boss fight as opposed to just on its own.

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It sure is a mystery!

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yes I realize it's frustrating that Day Sixteen was in seventeenth place but them's the breaks



16. Behind Blue Eyes
Source: The Who/Lifehouse
Villain: Jumbo
Nominator: Xeybozn (1 left)
Favorite lyric: But my dreams, they aren't as empty / As my conscience seems to be / I have hours, only lonely / My love is vengeance that's never free

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMrImMedYRo

Villainy: 3
Characterization: 9
Melody: 10
Total: 22/30

Behind Blue Eyes is a surprisingly difficult one to rate without bringing in context. This is a song that was originally meant to be part of a rock opera as the villain's main theme, before the idea was scrapped and select songs from it were made part of Who's Next, one of the best albums of all time. In the greater context of the planned rock opera, Jumbo (the villain) controls The Grid, which for lack of a better explanation is essentially a Matrix that only he seems to exist outside of, where he decides everyone's lives and emotions. That's where this gets tricky, because MOST of that requires outside knowledge and doesn't come through in the song. What does come through in the song is a very sad man who feels lonely and abandoned, but unlike some of the more sympathetic villains on this list, there's definite deflection and resentment that are easy to pick out here. He's acting as though he's all but innocent, and blaming his own subjects for his misery. It's a complex and interesting song that I'm glad was nominated because I never would've read into it as much as I did otherwise. It's also just a fuckin fantastic song the whole way through and I would kill to see Lifehouse actually made.

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17. Day Sixteen: Loser
Source: Ayreon
Villain: Father
Nominator: TheArkOfTurus (1 left)
Favorite lyric: I came here to watch you bleed, oh how I love to gloat / If you had any balls at all, you'd grab me by the throat

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkOBgT0KT40

Villainy: 5
Characterization: 8
Melody: 9
Total: 22/30

This album instantly earned itself a spot on my list to listen to in full. From what info I could gather, the concept album follows a man in a coma dealing with emotions and memories in his head, and it honestly seems really intriguing. I'm more than excited to check it out if any of it sounds like this song, which is fantastic. Musically it's all over the place, at times sounding like celtic music, metal, and even a 70s rock epic. The father (whose perspective is told for the majority of the song) is just a horrible, horrible person, blantantly mistreating his son and bragging about his own achievements. It's ironic too, as we learn he's essentially achieved nothing and is just projecting his own insecurity of being a loser onto his son, who in turn responds with almost incomprehensible rage in the end.

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Be More Chill favorite lyric:

Oh, everything about you is so terrible / Whoa, everything about you makes me wanna die

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18. Be More Chill (Pt. 1)
Source: Be More Chill
Villain: The SQUIP
Nominator: cakophon (ELIMINATED)
Favorite lyric: Maui man, you could try, try, try / But you can't expect a demi-god / To beat a decapod

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocJ-TaG2mUw

Villainy: 4
Characterization: 9
Melody: 9
Total: 22/30

Fun fact, while I had never seen Be More Chill while doing the ranking, I actually saw it for the first time this week. To be fair, it was a kinda subpar student version on YouTube, not the Broadway that I assume would've been considerably better, though either way I've got some issues with the plot itself that kind gets significantly worse in the second half but ANYWAY the idea behind the Squip is kinda cool. It's basically Upgrade (2018) but instead of being designed to survive, it's made to survive high school. In Be More Chill (the song), the Squip is consistently funny and steals the scene (his first scene) while also being a cocky jerk. Not evil (not yet anyway), just mean and manipulative, primarily to Jeremy, though that's his entire point. He's breaking down Jeremy's already low-confidence in order to prevent Jeremy from getting in his own way, and, of course, in the Squip's way. The song is all over the place; it's funny and one of the most memorable songs from the musical.

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Fastbreak posted...

Shiny is either next or top 3 im calling my shot

19. Shiny
Source: Moana
Villain: Tomotoa
Nominator: Scare (ELIMINATED)
Favorite lyric: Maui man, you could try, try, try / But you can't expect a demi-god / To beat a decapod

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93lrosBEW-Q

Villainy: 8
Characterization: 8
Melody: 6
Total: 22/30

I fuckin love Moana. Easily one of the best things Disney has done in a long time. Shiny is a really fun moment that briefly breaks from the main story to face off against a giant David Bowie crab, and it's overall just a good time. Jermaine Clement does a better Bowie impression than probably anyone else out there, and this is essentially Bowie for kids. Reading the lyrics tells a different story though, and one I don't think I appreciated enough until doing this ranking. Tomotoa initially comes off like the normal random Disney villain who just wants to eat, kinda like Kaa in Jungle Book. But that's not the case, is it? Tomotoa is evil. He goes over how he gets fed; his shiny shell brings in fish whole schools at a time, so that he never goes hungry. He literally eats during the song. So why's he going after Maui and Moana so hard? Because fish are dumb. He's not in this for the food, he's in this for the thrill of devouring intelligent life and mocking his prey along the way. He's not some random enemy after all, he has a long, antatgonistic history with Maui, but since we're following Moana's perspective, we only get the brief, frightening glimpse of it.

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Your Top 20!
Scare - Moana - Shiny

Great Paul - Hunchback of Notre Dame - Hellfire

Uglyface2 - Pink Floyd - Waiting for the Worms

Snake5555555555 - Slayer - Dead Skin Mask

Xeybozn - The Who - Behind Blue Eyes
Xeybozn - Hamilton - You'll Be Back

Toxtricity - The Lion King 2: Simba's Pride - My Lullaby

BetrayedTangy - Starship - Kick It Up a Notch

Bane - Anastasia - In the Dark of the Night
Bane - clipping. - Run for Your Life

TheArkOfTurus - Ayreon - Day Sixteen: Loser
TheArkOfTurus - The Mountain Goats - Werewolf Gimmick

Jesse Custer - Talking Heads - Psycho Killer

Zyxyz - Ar tonelico Qoga - XaaaCi

cakophon - Be More Chill - Be More Chill (Pt. 1)

Player 0 - Wander Over Yonder - I'm the Bad Guy
Player 0 - Eminem - Stan

UF8 - Umineko - Egurite

Pirateking2000 - Warhammer 40K (fan song) - Devourer

azuarc - Phantom of the Opera - Music of the Night

gee who wants to bet on which top 20er drops first

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@Shonen_Bat I am so so sorry I love you

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21. Your Reality
Source: Doki Doki Literature Club
Villain: Monika
Nominator: Shonen Bat (ELIMINATED)
Favorite lyric: What do you call love in your reality? / And in your reality, if I don't know how to love you / I'll leave you be

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAL4WMpBNs0

Villainy: 1
Characterization: 10
Melody: 10
Total: 21/30

Man, I'm so sorry I can't put this higher, that villainy score just really, really held back what is otherwise one of my favorite villain songs. Unlike some of the other 1s like Defying Gravity and Roar of the Jungle Dragon, which are ultimately heroic, and Distant Image and Awaken, which weren't specific enough to the character to be villainous without context, Your Reality loses almost all its points because of where this lands in the story. Similar to Still Alive, the villain has already been defeated. Unlike Still Alive, however, this isn't the villain mocking the protagonist, this is her basically explaining why she did everything she did. It's not malicious, but instead it's kind of heartbreaking. It's a love song written by someone who knows her love is manufactured and impossible, but who is still desperate for that love. In the end, she finally doe accept it though, and that last line of "I'll leave you be" hits incredibly hard.

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Welp, I fucked up

So, Devourer was actually #20; I accidentally skipped #21

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20. Devourer
Source: Warhammer 40K (fan song by StringStorm)
Villain: The Tyranids
Nominator: Pirateking2000 (ELIMINATED)
Favorite lyric: Our evolution is impeding, this universe will end / It's purpose is served as we ascend

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_iRwdfZw5y0

Villainy: 10
Characterization: 9
Melody: 3
Total: 22/30

It might be hard to believe given how high it's placed, but Devourer is one of the biggest disappointments of the entire ranking, and ultimately that's what's kept it just out of barely in the top 20. The first like 25 seconds of the song are intense and powerful and immediately got me hyped. I only had a very vague idea of what Tyranids were but could right away picture the giant, horrifying army approaching to the heavy synth. And then those vocals come in. If not for those vocals, this would've been a top 10 song easy. The lyrics do an excellent job portraying the Tyranids as this nearly unfathomable enemy that won't halt until it's destroyed all of civilization. They aren't just mindless killers either; these are monsters in their purest form, unstoppable and wreaking havoc and destruction with full malice. They're the embodiment of creeping death. And those vocals are just so goddamn bad. Everything else about the song is excellent. The instrumentals are creepy and exciting and they're just ruined by these high-pitched, tone-deaf, double-layered vocals that feel completely out of place within the rest of the song. It honestly just blows my mind that this was the direction they decided to take what was otherwise a top-tier fan song.

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22. Stained, Brutal Calamity
Source: Terraria Calamity
Villain: Supreme Calamitas
Nominator: Hbthebattle (ELIMINATED)
Favorite lyric: Are you sure you want to lose your mind from a legend whose power could salvage mankind?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MT6HTpY_OyE

Villainy: 2
Characterization: 10
Melody: 9
Total: 21/30

why the fuck is terraria so intense? I was surprised to find out these lyrics were in English my first listen through; I had to actually read the lyrics while listening to understand it as I'd previously just assumed it was like Latin or something. The setup of this song is really interesting, and it took quite a few listens (and some wiki reading) to really figure out what was happening here. The song is broken into 4 sections that all play during the game's hardest boss battle. The first section is from the perspective of Calamitas, desperate to take down the player but questioning her own morals. The second is the perspective of the player, intent on taking down Calamitas but questioning if the quest is worth it. The third and fourth seem to be an objective outsider, narrating the climax of the battle until the end. The whole thing is fascinating and just a real pleasure to listen to, with the only real holdup as far as this ranking is concerned being that it's a little hard to think of it as a villain song given how sparced out it is. Calamitas doesn't seem wholly unreasonable here (despite appearing to be a giant demon eyeball or something) and this is more about the battle itself than her as a villain.

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23. Other Friends
Source: Spinel
Villain: Steven Universe: The Movie
Nominator: Toxtricity (1 left)
Favorite lyric: Who am I? Who am I? What are you even saying? / I'm the loser of the game you didn't know you were playing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvjtCqNA5E0

Villainy: 5
Characterization: 8
Melody: 8
Total: 21/30

I meantioned during the write-up for "What's the Use of Feeling (Blue)?" that the song makes me actually want to go watch Steven Universe, and that probably goes triple for Other Friends. I've heard a couple Steven Universe songs, and they're usually pretty good, but then this fucking electroswing bop comes along, and I can't help but jam along. Ultimately I really wanted more of it, because the song itself is extremely short, especially considering a good chunk of it is just the characters talking in the middle. There's only so much characterization that can come through that fast, but it overall does a fantastic job with it. Spinel has a long-lasting hate for Steven Universe's group, the heroes that she's been stuck hearing about while she's been completely forgotten. While she's definitely angry and violent, she also doesn't come across as evil, just lashing out.

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24. Friends on the Other Side
Source: Princess and the Frog
Villain: Dr. Facilier
Nominator: Great Paul (1 left)
Favorite lyric: Don't you disrespect me little man / Don't you derogate or deride / You're in my world now, not your world / And I got friends on the other side

https://youtube.com/watch?v=g00kEcGh4j8

Villainy: 6
Characterization: 7
Melody: 8
Total: 21/30

This is a hard one to drop, but we're in the big leagues now. Friends on the Other Side is an excellent villain song, and frankly one of Disney's best. It's no secret that Keith David just has an incredible voice which naturally embodies Facilier's devious nature. I mentioned a while back, but I definitely think Facilier's trickery is a little more straightfoward than someone like Ursula. She was straightforward with Ariel, even gave her a contract and everything, but Facilier is just classic "play on words" trickery, getting the naive prince to agree to become a frog because he wants "the green" and freedom to "hop" from place to place. It's kind of funny, because he does actually give Lawrence what he wants without tricking him. There's still the sense of mystery over Dr. Facilier though. It's obvious from the beginning that he's up to something, but at this point we have no idea what exactly that is. I definitely have issues with PatF as a movie, but Dr. Facilier certainly isn't one of them.

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25. Brand New Day
Source: Dr. Horrible's Sing Along Blog
Villain: Dr. Horrible
Nominator: Janus5k (ELIMINATED)
Favorite lyric: It's a brand new day / Yeah the sun is high / All the angels sing / Because you're gonna die

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVda8HD7rg8

Villainy: 6
Characterization: 7
Melody: 8
Total: 21/30

I mentioned my love of Dr. Horrible's Sing-Along Blog back with My Freeze Ray, but this song just steps in up in about every way. It's a better song and it's probably the darkest moment for Dr. Horrible (at least until Penny's death). The whole musical is pretty comical, but at its core is a very dark idea. Dr. Horrible is essentially the shy kid being bullied by Captain Hammer, and while he always identifies as the villain, this is the moment he truly becomes a villain. He's snapping, deciding that he's going to kill Captain Hammer. And it's still somehow a little sad, because you can tell he really just wants to be respected and appreciated.

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KCF0107 posted...

Oh cool, you really ended up liking the song as well. I figured it would score high in the other two categories, but this is definitely a divisive song in terms of likability. Did I finish the highest among those who only nominated one song?

Honestly his enthusiasm was what really drove it home for me.

And you did! Though azuarc also deserves some special mention for only nominating 2 and still being in

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26. The Plague's Song
Source: Figment
Villain: The Plague
Nominator: KCF0107 (ELIMINATED)
Favorite lyric: Black Death, red nose and green gills / A pharmacy of bitter pills / Drenched in sweat and with a scream / You wake up from my fever dream

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yr0-Wv06NI

Villainy: 7
Characterization: 7
Melody: 7
Total: 21/30

Congrats KCF, your one nomination managed to be the lucky song to get the only 777 of the whole contest! If there's one thing I can really appreciate, it's an indie game going the extra mile by including fun, unique songs like this (anyone who's been around me for the last few weeks can attest to this as I've been singing "It's Bugsnax" nonstop). I absolutely adore how into the song the singer gets, going full ham with no hesitation. The Plague reminds me a lot of Hexxus, but more goofy and ridiculous on top of his disgusting cruelty. While he comes across as silly, the pain he wants to inflict is surprisingly real, as he goes into heavy detail about how he wants to cause pain and suffering.

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27. Rocket-dan Danka
Source: Pokemon XYZ
Villain: Team Rocket
Nominator: banshiryuu (ELIMINATED)
Favorite lyric: Today, we are only defeated by chance / Tomorrow, the goddess of victory shall smile upon us / Look up, even those tears have dried / It's not like we're crying or anything

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBi_jcdw5pw

Villainy: 2
Characterization: 8
Melody: 10
Total: 20/30

I had never heard this song prior to this ranking, and I'm really glad I finally have. Much, much earlier in this contest many were surprised to see Double Trouble do so poorly, and I admit, it was hard myself knocking a song that had such a strong nostalgia factor backing it up, but after hearing Rocket-dan Danka, the quality gap between the two is unmistakable. Even without the English voice actors I've come to know and love, RDD perfectly captures the personalities of Jessie, James and Meowth, and even squeezes in Wobbuffet's little pop-ins. The lyrics are hilarious, and the song just kinda rocks. It sounds victorious, thrilling, and just a little heavy; it's everything Team Rocket wants to be. It covers the recurring story of the team, chasing down Pikachu and ultimately "blasting off again" but never giving up. It's not particularly evil, because it's really more silly than anything else, which again, is perfectly fitting for Team Rocket.

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28. The Mob Song
Source: Beauty and the Beast 2017
Villain: Gaston and the Mob
Nominator: Great Paul (2 left)
Favorite lyric: We don't like what we don't understand, in fact it scares us / And this monster is mysterious at least

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nEiNxr4NpQ

Villainy: 7
Characterization: 7
Melody: 6
Total: 20/30

So overall, I don't think The Mob Song is necessarily a better song than Gaston. Gaston is catchier, funny and more fun to sing along to. What The Mob Song is is a better villain song. This isn't Gaston hanging out in a bar, soaking up praises while being a cocky jerk; this is Gaston using his popularity and influence in the town to stir a bunch of desperately frightened locals into a murderous riot. To my surprise, this version of the song did that a good bit better than the original, adding some really nice extra lines to make this song less of an afterthought, like LeFou's "There's a beast running wild, there's no question. But I fear the wrong monster's released." You really get a sense of not just Gaston here, but everyone around him. Gaston isn't the dummy that could barely read a book, he's directly and maliciously manipulating people for his own horrible purposes.


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Fastbreak posted...

Oh man

Now I wish I nominated You Think You Know Me

On this day

You see clearly

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29. Voices
Source: WWE
Villain: Randy Orton
Nominator: paulg235 (ELIMINATED)
Favorite lyric: I have returned from centuries of slumber / Now the universe must burn

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pM76LtznNrc

Villainy: 6
Characterization: 7
Melody: 7
Total: 20/30

Ok, I don't keep up with wrestling anymore like I did as a teenager, but I'm still a sucker for a good entrance theme (Favorite goes to Motorhead's "Line In The Sand"). Voices is super edgy and melodramatic, which is simultaneously both cringy but also very fitting for a wrestling heel's theme song. It's got the punch where once you hear "I HEAR VOICES IN MY HEAD" you just know "oh, here comes this asshole." It's not super deep, but it's catchy as all hell. It's also surprisingly effective as a villain song. While it doesn't outright give villainous plans like many songs, there's a really sinister monologue going on here. He expresses disdain for everyone, and I mean everyone, and puntuates it by saying the voices "tell me things I'll do to you." It's a little cheesy, but definitely does a good job capturing the perspective of the society-hating loner. Really just a great choice for the given scenario.

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30. Goblin King of the Darkstorm Galaxy
Source: Gloryhammer
Villain: Zargothax & The Goblin King
Nominator: Janus5k (1 left)
Favorite lyric: I have returned from centuries of slumber / Now the universe must burn

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7R69ACob9sY

Villainy: 10
Characterization: 5
Melody: 5
Total: 20/30

So this is about Zargothax (thanks Genius.com), an evil wizard asking the Goblin King to help him *checking notes* kill all life in the universe. Well, guess I can't argue with that, that's 10/10 evil no matter how you cut it. Unfortunately, this song was more in the average range in every other category. Power metal isn't something I've ever been super into, but it's usually enjoyable in small doses. I just feel like a lot of it tends to kinda sound the same, and this song isn't really the exception. It's fun, but doesn't stand out. There's definitely a little bit of lore squeezed into the song, but I still don't really know who either The Goblin King or Zargothax are. Zargothax wants to destroy the universe... because? And the Goblin King is... also there?

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redrocket posted...

I had no idea you had seen Repo!, let alone were a fan. Thats wild!

lol I've probably seen Repo! like 5 times. Me and my sister and both big fans

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NFUN posted...

what the fuck I was focusing on how the lyrics are sang to think about your criticism and I only now noticed that the first line is in iambic pentameter

lol

and I'm not gonna pretend to know nearly enough about music theory or proper vocalization to accurately define why they sound so wrong, it just feels very unnatural (kind of like how The World Revolving was, only not NEARLY as bad)

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31. Philistine
Source: No More Heroes 2
Villain: Margaret Moonlight
Nominator: NFUN (ELIMINATED)
Favorite lyric: You think the fire in your eyes makes you a tiger in disguise? / Dream on, you goddamn pussy!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNM5mFQ9siI

Villainy: 9
Characterization: 8
Melody: 3
Total: 20/30

I really, really wish I could say I liked this song more than I actually do, because I love Margaret Moonlight as a villain (really, the thing No More Heroes probably does best is just its awesome boss characters). It's a shame the official version of the song doesn't start with the creepy whistle she does at the beginning of her actual boss fight, because that definitely adds to it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yq2XMX1x8j8

Something about the vocals though... I don't think the singer's bad, but the pacing of the lyrics just fits so awkwardly with the structure of the chords, almost like the lyrics were written without taking into consideration how they were actually supposed to fit into the song. The rhyme scheme is picked up and dropped almost at random, there's no consistency to how long syllables are, it's just odd. And it's a shame, because otherwise, this is a great villain song. It's equal parts funny and evil, with MM basically being a way less passive agreessive and way more joyously cruel GLaDOS. She's not hinting that Travis is adopted; she's outright making fun of him for being an otaku and a wannabe badass, while at the same time enthusiastically singing about how much she loves to murder people. Interesting that the American version got nominated; the Japanese version (which is still in English) probably would've scored about the same though. The backing music is better in the JP one, but the vocals are turned considerably worse

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFXqJ--L_Kk

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32. Gold
Source: Repo! The Genetic Opera
Villain: Rotti
Nominator: redrocket (ELIMINATED)
Favorite lyric: But before I go my kids will know about the man the have crossed / As Marni did the day she fled and became Nathans wife

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3USff2ITpc

Villainy: 7
Characterization: 8
Melody: 5
Total: 20/30

I'm a pretty big fan of Repo!, and while there's a ton of songs on that soundtrack I adore, this has never fully been one of them. It definitely gets better as it goes on, with Rotti's vocals sounding pretty weak until he hits that octave change around halfway through and you can really hear how impressive his operatic vocal abilities really are. Rotti as a character is someone mostly irredeemable; he only cares about his wealth and nothing else holds any significance, including his children. What makes this song interesting is the direction it takes in the end, with Rotti recognizing he doesn't have long to live and, realizing that he can't take his wealth with him, wanting to give it to a proper heir who "deserves" it. While he's not the MOST evil on this list, he's a rotten fucking guy, not hesitant to destroy anyone who crosses him, much like Marni.

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Luis_Sera89 posted...

In fact, if you've played Cadence of Hyrule, that's him on the guitar and her singing on the title screen and Fairy Fountain tracks!

I have not played Cadence of Hyrule but I love that; I'll definitely have to look up the songs.

I have seen a good bit of her stuff with FamillyJules though and it's fantastic. They've got a lot of great ones together, but I think my favorite is probably this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9J1cawygdM

she also did this collab

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdfPMadOyw0

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33. Springtime for Hitler
Source: The Producers
Villain: Adolf Hitler
Nominator: redrocket (1 left)
Favorite lyric: We're marching to a faster pace / Look out, here comes the master race

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPXHRX8Q2hs

Villainy: 8
Characterization: 6
Melody: 6
Total: 20/30

What's a surefire way to get a high score in Villainy in a villain song ranking? Nominate a song about Hitler, of course! It feels weird giving any less than a 10 tbh, given that it's, ya know, Hitler and all. But this is also obviously not a song to be taken seriously, and (thankfully) goes more into the general war instead of going into the whole genocide thing (which is more villainous but also a lot less funny). Ultimately, that's what this song is going for. It's one of the thousands of Hitler parodies, and it's pretty decent at both poking fun at the ridiculous idol worship of Nazi fascism while also being a catchy enough song.

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34. Just Monika
Source: Doki Doki Literature Club (fan song by Random Encounter)
Villain: Monika
Nominator: Raka Putra (ELIMINATED)
Favorite lyric: She's depressed and stressed and she's feeling blue, so I don't want Sayori hanging around you!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYoOIGBcN48&vl=ko

Villainy: 6
Characterization: 8
Melody: 6
Total: 20/30

There's a lot this song does right, but a decent bit it does wrong as well. So I'll start with a brief pro/con list.
Pros
+ALMOST every singer does an excellent job capturing the personality of their character
+The song does an excellent job of capturing the entire game with like 3 minutes
+The song itself is pretty decent. Nothing amazing, but overall pleasant.
Cons
-The actor/singer doing the main character is bad. Seriously, dude barely has any lines and they require no range, and yet somehow he still stands out for sounding particularly awkward and flat.
-That fucking VRV ad in the middle of the song. Look, I wanted to overlook this, but this is literally the only version of the song Random Encounter uploaded to YouTube. I get YouTube creators need to put ads in their videos, and I can look past that, but putting an ad right in the middle of the song? Are you kidding? Put it at the beginning, or end, just don't sabotage your own song like this, holy shit.
Anyway, I do like this quite a bit, more as a project and video than as a song itself. I do thank it for introducing me to Adriana Figueroa, who does some incredible vocal covers of songs from games and shows.

https://www.youtube.com/user/adrisaurus

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Snake5555555555 posted...

I had nominated it just because I think it's a unique take on a "villain song", it takes a well-established villain from the past and makes her the hero instead, but that perception of her being a villain is still there and she could still be considered a villain as perceived by the other characters in the scene during the number.

Yeah, don't get me wrong, I definitely get the idea of why it was nominated. That same idea is also just what makes it very hard to score and rank as a villain song xD

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Inviso posted...

Wait a second...

Defying Gravity isn't a villain song. >_>

35. Defying Gravity
Source: Wicked
"Villain": Elphaba
Nominator: Snake5555555555 (1 left)
Favorite lyric: I'm through accepting limits 'Cause someone says they're so / Some things I cannot change But till I try I'll never know

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEq3xM-i0Ng

Villainy: 1
Characterization: 10
Melody: 9
Total: 20/30

Alright guys, my bad, this one's on me. By all means, this one PROBABLY shouldn't have been accepted. It's the only song in the ranking that would score negative on the Villainy score if the system allowed for it. Like Vis said, Defying Gravity just isn't a villain song. The only reason I allowed it (and the reason I assume it was nominated) is because technically Elphaba is the villain of The Wizard of Oz, but she's literally the protagonist and hero of Wicked. Defying Gravity is a song all about Elphaba embracing who she is, finding her strength, and pushing forward and learning to fly. The only villainous thing about it is the extras calling her wicked. That being said, after allowing the song into the ranking, I also couldn't put it any lower than this, because Defying Gravity is a fucking fantastic song. It's widely recognized as one of the best musical songs to come out of this century, and for good reason. It's an incredible, defining moment for both the character and the audience with remarkable vocal range. It's just not villainous.

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36. Want You Gone
Source: Portal 2
Villain: GLaDOS
Nominator: MetalmindStats (ELIMINATED)
Favorite lyric: Goodbye, my only friend, / Oh, did you think I meant you? / That would be funny if it weren't so sad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVVZaZ8yO6o

Villainy: 3
Characterization: 8
Melody: 8
Total: 19/30

Sorry to eliminate you MMS, but all things considered, pretty good placement for only nominating one song! Kinda sad "Goodbye my only friend" didn't get nominated for the Best Female Video Game Villain Quote contest. Want You Gone continues the tradition Still Alive started by just doing a really good job characterizing GLaDOS, and even adds a little by throwing in some of her backstory in between the insults. I know Still Alive is by far the more popular Portal song (given that it became a meme for years afterwards) but I honestly prefer Want You Gone. Bringing in Jonathan Coulton for it definitely helped, plus I think you get a little more of Ellen McLain's vocal ability coming through here. Like Still Alive, it's not particularly evil. Just rude.


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azuarc posted...

lol, is that really a hint? Teaser, maybe.

Lol yeah that's fair

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