Lurker > Sheep007

I think theres at least one scum among the group you mentioned. I am fine lynching you or JC. If Isquen cant get involved by early tomorrow Id be fine with a lynch there as well. Dumey is kind of a wildcard for me. No opinion has solidified yet

yes sorry I completely didnt answer your question at all. Its dinner and bath time here on the east coast with three little kids. Ill give a proper answer in a bit

Im 95% on town ctes but after the Han/ctes madness in Paper Mario, lets not rule out death being scums actual target to set up a doc saved someone and Im town vigilante claim for scum ctes

Han is claiming a cop scan on you.

Sheep has been very odd this game and I've never seen him anywhere near like this. The early impression I gave of him day 1 was he felt like someone who seemed disappointed to have rolled scum.

A fair amount of today, like yesterday, has felt "off". I mean like by the time he made that accusation on you I don't even know how many people had already implied it, so why did he make it on you in the first place?

Please see "I have to acknowledge that Crescent's vote was really the one that put the nail in Chris' coffin but I wouldn't put it past an enterprising scum player who sees the train (and thinks to themself that Chris' role is very hard to activate) to try and take it as a chance to end up on the right side of the lynch. As well, I am very prepared to take tons of grains of salt with the whole situation given that Chris was not around for EoD when he was a role that required him to be around for EoD."

This was my #1 theory to explain last night... It was just a reasonable assertion.

But Han didn't really have any momentum and Chris did, especially when you factor in that the only two votes on him at the time were from the two people ahead of him in votes. Han did not feel like a viable lynch option at all despite what the raw numbers on the votals.

I think Justin is town. If nothing else that role will self resolve because there is no chance he could fake it for an entire game.

I'm not entirely sure what to make of the claim and I'm still doing my full read to try and think things through clearly, but if JC is a scum rolecop or something adjacent it's very possible to fake his claim.

I think Justin is town. If nothing else that role will self resolve because there is no chance he could fake it for an entire game.

Speaking of Sheep hi Sheep refresh me why you voted Han please

Sheep, similar question. Ulti responded to you guessing about the night kill with the following:

This post is one of those revealing-the-plan that scum likes to make.

If we try to imagine that you were wrong and I'm right that Death was not the intended kill for the purpose of the exercise, what would be more likely. Town Ulti believes you're scum sharing the actual thought process of the team as indicated, or scum Ulti knowing this is not what happened wanting it to not be looked into by making it sound like you're right and getting to attack someone in the same progress?

If we're piling on Sheep, I'll remind everyone that he gave a very good argument for why me unvoting him yesterday was not Scummy (more NAI) and yet he was voting me saying me unvoting him was Scummy.

It would read as him being told to bus Chris, since the lynch would have been seen as inevitable. That would mean other Scum were watching at the same but probably not voting/posting, though.

I don't think Chris flipping clears Sultan. He knows better than that. Honestly, his case sounding weak makes it more than likely that it was a true case more than anything. Similar to how his weak defense of Death is now known to be true.

I think BCT jumped on Chris to late for it to be alignment indicative.

Chris himself went to goddamn sleep right before deadline. If scum thought he was their wincon like is being presented here (which is already super flawed given they amount of people they'd kill him late by principle), and non of his teammates were around, no way Chris doesn't do more. Chris' role isn't even that great tbh.

We can at least safely throw the idea that Chris could be confirmed town with that role straight into the trash can and then empty it.

The question I continue to ponder is why does claimed town vanilla that some people probably still think is scum die in the first place.

you guys really posted two whole topics while i was asleep huh

I thought the only reason this guy was getting a "pass" was because he was an actual newbie. "Culture" also still does not explain his outright avoidance of even discussing the top lynches.

Let him defend himself, thank you.

Different mafia culture? Isn't this his first game?

Uh

Well I was somehow right about Death being town in my EoD panic but uh... What? I was totally going to grill him on why he didn't vote Chris but I was pretty sure it was just because he panicked but seriously what?

But I wish to start this day by knocking the Wall down.

Wall did something in topic 5 that tends to be a very common trap newbie scum fall into, and it's one I used to fall into myself. There's 4 1/2 minutes left, and the trains of consequence are Chris, Death, and Han. He dodged any mention of the trains and voted Ulti instead. This prompted me to ISO his end of day in general twice.

My town lean on Wall hasn't just gone, it's flipped straight to a scum read. Wall is barely a factor in topic 3, nearly a non-factor in topic 4, and generally stays just barely on the fringes of the action in crunch time. He focuses predominantly on BCT, who is not a lynch candidate, for fairly weak reasons. He had no comment to make on any of the three people who might actually be getting lynched outside of soft defending Chris in #396 of topic 3 immediately after Ulti voted him. He at no point even makes any reference to Death or Han that I could find from topics 3-5.

This is much much more likely to come from newbie scum getting overwhelmed and having no idea what to do on a split lynch and completely avoiding it instead.

And you knwo what Sheep, I don't think you make any sense.

You say that I would have unvoted you for not claiming flavor as either alignment. But didn't you also say that my unvote of you was what was making you suspicious?

Also does scumChris really go take a nap at this point?

The man almost killed you.

If youre town, grow a pair. Its okay. I, fresh off of my MVP performance, will carry.

Why so concerned about this? 23 minutes left in the day is plenty.

Chris worries me a little bit, but he's supposed to, he's Chris. It's kind of uncanny how many moments we've had rather equal reactions on or reads to.

What felt off in the first topics? I mostly just saw Lea cycling between serious and... Lea, and didn't really have an opinion of her there.

Wallz looks exactly like I did in Nickelodeon Mafia. At least that's my impression. Newbie scum being coached and getting very defensive of being scanned, plus having someone trying to protect him (Ulti). The true reason I got defensive of being scanned was because I was scum that game. I feel he's doing the same thing, only he has a buddy covering for him.

Oh and Sheep let me try to pinpoint why you say you feel bad about Lea:

Lea's feels like she's been gaslighting Death quite a lot, even when no longer voting him?