Lurker > Sheep007

He has not I think he was only scum one if I recall

My main thing on him right now is why he is basically avoiding his read. On you

Sheep:

No, I would not believe you did that to bait me.

Thank you for reminding me about that post - the Death thing wasn't the biggest thing that stood out to me about you. It was the biggest thing that was yet unsaid. My biggest thing on you is that I find (still do) your posts on page 1 to be, idk, forcing a personality?

And my unvoting on you wasn't just for the reasoning I gave - it's mainly because I reread your actions on page 1 topic 1 and thought it didn't make sense from a Scum perspective, in spite of me feeling suspicious of your tone.

Is it bad that I actually don't know what you're taking about here?

Thoughts on Sheep:

Vote: Sheep

I agree or don't care about a lot of what's been said, but I want to add that Death is anything but an open book and that's what stuck out to me this morning. I don't believe that read.

Do you remember how she snap voted her buddy for posting a list day 1? Then when you claimed tracker she tried to defend you at first which is why I shot her night 1.

She actually was really aggressive at times that day 1. I remember because I shot her for it.

I remember Lea in poke wars as scum being much more try hard than this. She seems to be just floating like a leaf on the wind seeing where things lead which I think is a hallmark of her town play from memory. That woman does the most when she is scum lmao

Seriously, we're still talking about possibilities and the like, with NO information to go on. And you think we should deny ourselves ANY information a lynch can tell us? Only scum would want to do that.

Lynches are the best way to get information and suggesting a No Lynch on D1 is not something pro-town.

9 hours to go until end of day and were nowhere near a consensus. How does everyone feel about a no lynch?

I am not convinced ulti is scum but I am pretty much convinced ulti is not vanilla. If his initial enthusiasm was based on the player list I dont get why it dwindled when the player list hasnt yet. At first I thought maybe hes town power and doesnt want to draw too much attention. Is ulti a player who would make this post as town power? Looking for some genuine insight from the folks who know him best

You, for putting the gun to my head.

lol, j/k, I'm questioning Ulti a lot right now given how he's changed his mind several times and ignored me asking why. He suspected me, then suddenly didn't think I was scum anymore when he was ignored. Something's up with him.

Sheep maybe loudest isnt quite accurate, but I believe Han was the first person to call out how you babied BCT and said youd treat him as town the entire game because it would become obvious if hes scum. Iirc everyone else just raised an eyebrow about your claim post

I found the panic claim from sheep to be uncharacteristic of previous scum play. I found no obvious buddies trying to come to his rescue post claim from the list ctes gathered although iirc speaking of potential pairings jc was one of the people who hadn't commented at that time.

I think if it turns out sheep is scum then his wagon at that point is pure.

As for sheep himself I haven't read over night closely yet and I saw he posted some. I don't really like any of his early play but it also messes with me that sheep is just blatantly admitting that my read is on point to being close to a previous scum game.

Enough doubt to give sheep a chance to settle in more as he is very good as town when he isn't mislynching doctors.

Han, not to mention, you were the loudest by far against sheep when the game first started.

If Sheep is scum and Dumey is town, then I think that Sheep throwing a second soulread/town read out on Death was likely an attempt to distance or decouple.

I dont even think ulti ever actually believed sheep was scum at this point. Possibly because Ulti is scum, and sheep isnt.

Sheep what do you mean jc hasn't played with me he has been in many games with me and was in poke wars together for like 6 game days.

So I just went back and did an ISO of Death to see whether my gut had any logic that could either be correct, or confirmation bias, only time will tell.

Death, you have offered shockingly few actual opinions. The entirety of your content this topic has been asking Sheep his thoughts on people, with a few stray words here and there. Even outside of asking Sheep his thoughts on people, almost everything you've said since post 250 of Topic 1 has been in discussion with Sheep, or about Sheep.

What are your thoughts on the game outside of Sheep?

Sheep what do you make of Mzero?

1) I feel ignored, very rude.

2) The game has barely started so I don't see how too much of the game has been spent discussing you to be productive.

3) Surely you have some thoughts about this ominous train that threatens to engulf you? It seems like a cop out to be all "four people constitute a consensus so there's no point in analyzing these votes"

The emotion dripping from this post is fearful avoidance, which is weird because despite my best jingoism it's like, still ultimately a very tepid pressure right now. Kind of a hair trigger claim, tbh.

Apologies for ignoring you, I was tryna get to everything and then saw there was a lot of it and kinda gave up on doing it all in time and just dumped what I had out there.

I don't think too much of the game so far has necessarily been spent on me, but I do think that my Doing a Benjamin drew a lot of attention towards me, and I was not as prepared as I believed I was to fend it off nor squeeze content out of it (especially as nobody else seemed to get very much out of it beyond suspicion of me). Also, I frankly didn't wanna do the stupid "please claim" game for most of the rest of today - I think it's a waste of time and frustrates me no end being on either side of it.

I think the votes were decently justified, honestly? I'm definitely playing a bit off from what I was last time I had a town D1, there's plenty of dumb things I've said, and there's none I take massive issue with. I think everyone had a pretty decent progression, and I'd have been more surprised if basically everyone who did vote me hadn't voted me once? You're probably the biggest exception, but I think the sheeping is basically a null-tell at this stage. Chris especially I'd expected to jump on, and I honestly don't take issue with anyone else's reasons beyond them being wrong. I feel Dumey's unvote might actually have been a bit hasty, because I'm not sure my claim is enough juice to put anyone off immediately without a different direction to go in, but then I also know nothing about Dumey's style.

Sheep did you not consider the ramifications of claiming nilla?

So youre mad that I haven't really got started yet?

There have been plenty of people not to make any reads by that point either why single me out specifically?

Saying something made him go "huh" =/= Actively voicing suspicion.

Feels more like you putting the words in his mouth to justify throwing shade on him. I don't get anything out of Sultan so far except he doesn't seem to have his head in the game yet and that isn't AI to me.

Hm, I'm not quite following how it was any less unnecessary yesterday to do two claims. Like yeah sure, get the game going but game had been going on for like minutes. The point of the claims ever being mentioned to begin with seemed to be because of the roles themselves to me.

That makes sense, but then why yesterday?

What specifically is this referring to again

Also sheep did I mention any reads other than maybe BCT to the point you asked me about reads? Just curious beacuse like you are acting like I made a wall read post and mentioned everyone but you and Dumey. I don't think I really mentioned much of anyone to that point to be honest.

This feels completely noncommittal to actually making game-solving progress.

So important you aren't even voting him?

Oh sheep lol

I'd be surprised if someone told him to react that overdefensively to a scan. Hat off if true.

Almost nothing of what he said in that post was a particularly difficult read to arrive at, and from my angle "he checked logs he must be Town" could easily be Scum telling Scum "this is what I usually play like".

I am playing yakuza so I will answer other things in a bit but just want to note it is totally unbelievable that sheep would be irritated that I am pursuing someone similar to him

Like people wait a lifetime to pounce on someone with me

Sheep you seem to really care a lot about your image right now.

Sheep this is the past thst pinged me to be like huh maybe he knows something.

He was panic mode as scum too and was only scum once.

Though I also hosted that game so I knew But maybe im just remembering all the panic in the scum chat that game and it wasn't so forward in the Topics?

I agree or don't care about a lot of what's been said, but I want to add that Death is anything but an open book and that's what stuck out to me this morning. I don't believe that read.

Good question.
I have no answer to this though.

This might be more jokey.

Says he might not be active has probably been the most active