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Terra-enforcer posted...

ScareChan posted...

Oh did we scummon neab

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What is the case supposed to be against him to begin with? Only times I've heard anything against him were in reference to lack of activity.

Should people just ignore inactives and go for more active players when scumhunting, then? Never going to find anything out if there's no pressure.
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HanOfTheNekos posted...

After HB's last game, it seems weird to me that Scare, who was his Scummate, is calling him Scum here.

How so, exactly? Not sure I follow.
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Neablis posted...

Look at sheep giving me a gut town pass, he looks so cute when he buddies up to me.

In any case I did say I wanted to use my vote better, eaed fell apart though, and I do not know if I feel like a lynch on reg at this point tbh.

The lynch picked up steam I think sort of suddenly (granted he was someone who a lot of people said was suspicious). Novody is really fighting against the lynch besides reg I suppose.

Shads list post pinged me a bit though, to me it felt like he was seemingly doing a lot without coming to any conclusions besides no conclusions at some point.

And of course I still would be ok with eaed

I called you town all last game and literally spent two-three days hard defending you from the rest of the game most of whom wanted to murder you. Don't complain this time >_>

I'm pretty heavily against a Reg lynch tbqh and I'm only not voting Ed because there's no point me putting my vote down now considering he's not here and it won't do anything. I'm not lynching HB unless someone can seriously convince me otherwise.

Hbthebattle posted...

By the time I hopped off eaed, most people had already gotten off it. It makes sense to be to try to go for the scumread I think is the easier lynch, and thanks to Han, that was Reg. If a big eaed train picks up steam, I'd be totally down to rejoining it.

Han is a good player. There's a solid chance he's scum regardless of if people have townreads on him. Are you going to constantly follow him just because you know he's good unless something convinces you he's scum?
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Mobilezoid posted...

It was my goal for the year. It introduced me to some great stuff I'd have never watched otherwise, but there was also a whole lot of junk so I don't think I'll attempt this challenge again

Anything which got barely any attention you'd recommend?
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Also it was more a read based on tone than content. Gut, I guess.
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I mean last few times he didn't vote til right at the end of the day iirc. Voting in his first few posts might technically be using his vote more
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He said he was going to change it up and use his vote more this game with one of his first posts iirc. I remember thinking that post was in character with what I'd expect from him as town. Dunno if there was anything else notable.
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100... yikes. Not even sure if I've finished 20.
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I'm alright on Neab so far. Started off calling him scum in every game but I think it might just be how he is and I lean town more commonly near the start. Still not seen him as scum either but I do want to see more from him than we've had so far.
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ScareChan posted...

Sheep007 posted...

Who is currently your proposed alternative, though? Screw D1 passes, I'd rather play to win.

Honestly I really want to lynch corrik

I feel there is a case for HB. he did t handle the pressure on him very well.

I feel there is a case for ed. His start to day looked very scummy

I feel neabs posts have been opportunistic and unlike his usual tone.

There definitely isn't enough on Corrik nor enough momentum behind a potential lynch of him for that to happen. I feel like if you really wanted to lynch him that much you'd be trying to make him engage you a little more, as well.

If you had the deciding vote, and it was HB or Ed, right now, which would you pick?
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Reg posted...

Reg posted...

Hb starts suspecting me literally as soon as I vote him though. Which is cool.

This means he took something like 20ish hours to actually come around and vote me btw, which only happened as soon as the train on me was actually rolling.

He was fairly firm on Ed before that though, iirc. Was he the one who vocalised the fact he was sheeping Han?
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Who is currently your proposed alternative, though? Screw D1 passes, I'd rather play to win.
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I mean, if you thought someone else was particularly scummy then sure, but keeping your vote on Corrik of all people up til now when you've called Reg "probably scum"?
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I might not have explained well enough, but between pages 2 and 7 only that post from Scare was throwing shade on Reg as far as I could tell, out of those who hadn't voted him.
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Who said they liked you but didn't vote you? I would really love to see, because I CtrlF'd your name and only this post from Scare popped up to me
ScareChan posted...

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Hbthebattle posted...

I mean it didn't actually go well for Chris because nobody wanted to follow up on Jedi voters
So I would suggest not starting 3 vote trains, especially if one is on someone who has done nothing at all

Please, I'm not Chris.

And hey, Scare, I promise I'll look at HB in detail if you join me on Reg here.

I already said reg is probably scum, but giving him day 1 pass because he hasn't player in ages

A courtesy pass if you will

ScareChan posted...

Speaking of town leader spot

we are not lynching reg today and if you end on him today it will not end well for you

So, Scare, are we only not lynching Reg today because he's not played for a while?
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Additionally MZero has done this or something similar in every game I've seen him in the past 4-5 months so I'm not sure that's any kind of tell at all.
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Also maybe it's unfair to say there weren't many reads in there

But when you're posting about the entire game and then saying nothing on a solid portion of them it's not particularly helpful.
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Leafeon13N posted...

Shad you just called every big player in the game town.

He didn't call Corrik Town, for what it's worth!
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Some interesting thoughts there, Shad.

What made you feel like Johnbobb was particularly contributing? To me it seemed like he was intentionally doing nothing despite there actually being a fair bit to talk about for a D1 without a ton of posts. Are you leaning town on him or neutral? There's not a lot of stuff saying about your thoughts on alignments for that type of list (I count Scare, Red, Plum, Han, HB and MZero, plus sort of Ed). Feels kinda like forced content when concentrated thoughts on just those half dozen or so players would have been better.
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The only vaguely new person on the Reg train is HB, Plum, though I don't know how much Terra has played recently.
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Reg did not claim
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Just went back to see who I put in that post. I've played enough with God, I'd say, while Scare is one of the better players who I think I can consistently read. Is having two town reads on players I don't know that well (Red and Neab) "many"?
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Corrik posted...

Sheep007 posted...

There's some contradictory logic here. You say I'm one of the best scum players in this game yet am not actually looking like scumhunting so think I'm scum. Never knew you had such low standards for calling someone a good player.

Trying to gain town allies as scum is good play. Look how many of those you called town even have a whiff of scum from you. Wonder why.

I haven't really been keeping track but the only person to call me scum so far iirc is you
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My first post is normally a good 12-16 hours after game start due to timezones. That's normally enough for a read especially if someone is being particularly blatant. I called both Ben and Scare obvious Town in my first post the game they claimed masons.
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Corrik posted...

Dark Young Link posted...

Corrik posted...

Plus, Plum and Sheep are scum too.

How come?

Plum tried to make up reasoning to vote me when he thought I was inactive. He did this in another game he was scum also.

Sheep is one of the best scum players in this game and he made a lot of a point to basicat say everyone who made substantial posts was all town in his first post without even a whiff of looking for scum. Appears to be scum trying to curry favor from town and not actually looking for scum.

There's some contradictory logic here. You say I'm one of the best scum players in this game yet am not actually looking like scumhunting so think I'm scum. Never knew you had such low standards for calling someone a good player.

Dark Young Link posted...

Yeah looking at sheep...

Dude seems confident on a lot of people so casually.

@Sheep007 Could you explain your town reads please? Additionally, who do you suspect is scum?

As someone else has mentioned a bit further down, I always rather to come across as confident. It's cause it puts more pressure on people and makes my reads clear. Scare is my top Town read and the difference between scum/town Scare feels like night and day so I'm very sure on that one. Activity levels, how much he's created discussion, etc. I still feel moderately confident on HB as town as well, though to a lesser extent when compared to before. Unlike just about everyone else, apparently, I think Reg is town. The only person I feel is town on his lynch is HB and Reg's been active and attempting to scumhunt more than just about every other player. IGCD is also a town lean for his start to the game but that's mostly gut.

Scum... Not so many. Ed's a pretty big scumread still but there's nobody else I'm confident enough to call scum yet. Will probably start paying more attention for the last few hours since I should be available from now til about deadline.
Neablis posted...

The eased wagon sort of fail apart here.

In any case I will post complete thoughts soon.

Sheep is not technically outside what I've witnessed as town however he is well under the normal amount of activity and impact I expect.

It is a bit worrying though

See my above statement.
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Sending mine in now because I never will otherwise. Not entirely sure on some of these choices but eh.
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I don't think I've been in a game with Reg before, but I'm not leaning anywhere near as much towards scum on him as others seem to be. I'm not sure I particularly understand the case against him as a whole, or rather I feel that the points are really poorly justified.
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Terra-enforcer posted...

@Sheep007 you were convinced Hb was sure fire town before, but what are your thoughts now? Between his more questionable push on eaed and hiding behind the "new player" excuse, wouldn't say he looks so straightforward anymore

I'm not quite as sure now, although my initial read was strong. Still lean town but definitely not so heavily.
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Also if Ed is scum then Plum is basically confirmed town because I think he just noticed what I think I did
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Did anyone actually read the rules or am I going insane
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htaeD posted...

Neablis posted...

So I will answer everything thing that was posted to me when I get into my house rough day at work.

I think his flavor kinda stinks and is wrong anyway

what the heck is this about?

Also... sheep. How is ead new as scum?

I meant HB (as in he wouldn't bus Ed if they're both scum), although I may be wrong with regards to him being new.
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eaedwards6400 posted...

I gotta be honest Sheep and I said this when we were scum together I really dont think you're as good as you think you are. And I am not going to stand here and pretend I'm good but I'm just stating how I feel.

For one, I know I'm not particularly great, I'm average at best for this board. Would it be better that I don't back myself and just follow other people?

Secondly, I kinda fail to see how it's relevant. Are you just implying that I'm wrong so therefore I'm bad, or vice versa, or you just trying to get to me?
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eaedwards6400 posted...

Sheep007 posted...

I mean, Ed, I think you're scum because your play has been bad, you trying to avoid awkward questions about what you were actually trying to do was bad, your claim was bad and most of your reactions to pressure have been bad.

Show me a question I didn't answer.

I didn't say you didn't answer a question, you just failed to answer questions in a satisfactory way and I'm sure you know that your answers weren't great.
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eaedwards6400 posted...

Sheep007 posted...

Terra-enforcer posted...

Sheep007 posted...

Wait MZero is in this game

Also HB is town guys I know it's early but please don't derp and lynch him late on.

You going to give us reasons as to why we shouldn't? And I find it interesting that you randomly single him out in particular. Not as if he's been some major point of contention.

Every post from him I've noticed has been a very straightforward and reasonable town-seeming post. His reaction to being told to vote Ed if he wanted to pressure him kinda sealed it for me. Just doesn't feel like something newish scum would do.

Except this is exactly what scum HB did do.

Okay, but I'm going to back my intuition here. Plus I think you're scum and most new scum don't tend to bus.
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Also regarding Scare, I am yet to see him as scum and think "yeah he's probably town". He was my first town read this game and I'm probably right.
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I mean, Ed, I think you're scum because your play has been bad, you trying to avoid awkward questions about what you were actually trying to do was bad, your claim was bad and most of your reactions to pressure have been bad.
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Terra-enforcer posted...

Sheep007 posted...

Wait MZero is in this game

Also HB is town guys I know it's early but please don't derp and lynch him late on.

You going to give us reasons as to why we shouldn't? And I find it interesting that you randomly single him out in particular. Not as if he's been some major point of contention.

Every post from him I've noticed has been a very straightforward and reasonable town-seeming post. His reaction to being told to vote Ed if he wanted to pressure him kinda sealed it for me. Just doesn't feel like something newish scum would do.
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The c/p Death bit is throwing me off a bit, Ed. Plus your thoughts on Scare are really, really out there and you're somehow sticking with them? Like, this is so bad you could be Town because scum would realise they're digging themselves a hole and back off.
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Wait MZero is in this game

Also HB is town guys I know it's early but please don't derp and lynch him late on.
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Corrik consciously attempts to act the same as both alignments. I think what Plum was trying to say is that it feels like Corrik is consciously trying to look like Town Corrik (what he did last game is very similar to how he would behave as town in general, most likely).
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masterplum posted...

In all seriousness I dont like Corrik. It feels like he is tryin
g to be town Corrik.

Do you mind elaborating a bit more?
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And yes I'm fairly sure he's done what you asked about regardless.
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It was God asking for the same time and Corrik just asking for a claim, wasn't it?
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Oh just a few things with barely any content very early. All pretty null to me.
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What did Terra do again? Don't remember a post from him.
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I don't particularly like Corrik since he's voted myself and the person I'm most sure on as Town but that's more of a Corrik thing than anything else.

Also, Ed, Scare is generally active and provides substance but is rarely entirely business. At least in my experience. I'd like you to be a bit clearer though: what about this game so far makes him worthy of a vote from you? Are you saying that Scare this game has only provided nonsense?
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Hbthebattle posted...

Sheep007 posted...

HB providing solid reads so early probably means he's Town. What was he in the last game?

Scum.

Cheers

And yeah, Death, Ed's got a pretty bad thing going this game. Voting pretty strong Townread Scare feels kinda silly and I'm trying to remember my scum game with him for what he was like D1 when he was similarly under pressure very early.
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eaedwards6400 posted...

Scare is a player who when he puts his effort into it is an upper-half player in terms of skill.

I dunno if this is what Death was looking for but I don't really think so. What I'd like to know is how you think Scare acts normally, and why it's different to this.
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HB providing solid reads so early probably means he's Town. What was he in the last game?
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Corrik posted...

Would anyone like to claim yet? Preferably Sheep.

Why preferably me, Corrik? That's a hard no for now but ask again if we're both alive tomorrow.
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