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Ok... this initiative doesn't sound too bad actually. The lawsuit sounds petty and ridiculous if you ask me.

Those tears will never outnumber the ones he instigated in those sandy hook victims.

He deserves everything he's getting

WP is paywalled so i cent read anything on it

Love it. Saw it 4 times in theater.

Tyranthraxus posted...

If you bothered to read this thread already has tons of pics

I scrolled the first 2 pages then skipped to the last one. I see pics, none of paricular good quality to judge bur both models seem fine to me.

Thread is useless without pics for comparison

Charged151 posted...

What else can be said expect misdirections/lies? Even Mark Hamill didn't like how Disney portrayed Luke Skywalker or Star Wars in general. The treatment of the character is mostly indefensible.

Mark Hamill isn't the arbiter for what is or isn't a good portrayal of Luke. Hes an actor. He didn't create nor write the character.

The treatment of the character is highly defensible if you aren't blinded by nostalgia over reason and media literacy.

There were no lies nor misdirection. You let your nostalgia create narratives the film had no obligation to fulfill and you got upset when they didn't. Hapoens all the time.

I used to love jet li movies as a kid but its been a minute since I've watched one and its been even longer since li has made one.

Hamill doesn't even look like that drawing IRL

Yall really thought you were gonna have some silverfish beefcake luke.

Blame GL for sitting on his ass for the entirety of the 90s while carrie and mark weren't even getting work.

Tell me scotty what story arc does he have in that scene, what personality traits does he show?

Nothing. Its a great cameo but it has zero substance. Hes an action figure in that scene not a character.

Also, you realize the ST was filmed in the 2010s and Mark hamill doesn't look like that and no one wants to watch a deep fake mark Hamill for 2 hours.

Aressar posted...

Gangstah rap effectively ruined the entire genre by with it's infantile slang and moves.
Most rap lyrics can basically be encapsulated as:

I'm from the ghetto yo
I like money n' bitches yo
Don't you be dissin' me yo
Or I'ma shoot yo ass yo
Cuz I am gangstah yo
THIS IS DA REEEEEMIIIIIIX

And the saddest thing is that these 'rappers' truly don't realize how much they're embarrassing themselves.

I wanna post that meme of the kid sitting at the computer sooooooo bad rn

bigblu89 posted...

I don't know it "like" is the right term, I just appreciated the fact that Seinfeld (the show) didn't try to hide the fact that the characters weren't great people.

The show didn't try to promote the fact that they weren't great people either, so I could make the exact same claim as you're making for friends.

Dungeater posted...

superman for sure

One of the greatest characters ever

EventualDecline posted...

American pop music the last 25 years is so bad that historians should study it in the future. And currently, a criminal investigation should probably be opened to find out what the hell is going on.

The last 25 years have been some of the greatest periods of recorded music in the recorded history of recorded music, at least in the west. Imagine saying this in an era where Gorillaz, Weeknd, Billie Eilish, Khalid, Brittany Spears, Justin Timberlake, Shakira Beyonce and Lana Del Rey have all released ample music and that is just scratch the surface. So much diversity in sound and execution, so many new ideas.

I love the 80s. But cmon. Demon Days came out in 04. That alone completely eviscerated this claim

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They have songs similar to the scientist on more recent works, like O from ghost stories, and they have songs from fairly early periods that signal the direction of tracks like orphans all the way back on Mylo Xyloto or even X and Y.

You csnt just cherry pick two completely different songs, the point is they've always had wide ambitions for what kinds sounds they wanted and they've always had some elements of multiple genres. They started branching out almost immediately, even stuff like clocks uses a lot of the same ideas as tracks like orphans just executed differently.

Euripides posted...

They changed the arrangements a ton, though. Went from indie-pop with a lot of acoustic guitar and piano to full on drum computers/dance pop

I mean, by the time you got to X and Y/ Mylo Xyloto they were kinda already doing that. Heck you can hear hints of it even earlier, the tunes they were using far back as their 2nd album lent themselves to that sort of style. Now they seem to alternate with an album focusing on more stripped back sounds like Everyday Life, and then a more pop oriented one like the last one they did. It wss more an expansion of sound palette than a full of swap.

Favorite superhero?

As someone who has never even watched a single full episode of this show but has always been aware of its existence i find that gen y and z retroactively saying it was always bad to be performance at best

Judging it on how not diverse it was has SOME merit maybe but kinda falls flat once you realize 8/10 shows from that were the same situation and this one just gets flack because it was the most popular. This was the era where you were either a show for everyone or a black show a la fresh prince. Couldn't do both back then.

It still does massive streaming numbers so someone out there loves this stuff

PraetorXyn posted...

Thats a good point. Media literacy is also bad. I read a lot of fantasy, and its clear most people who just watch TV dont understand when basic social commentaries are being done in fiction. Its like a missing link, even when its a really obvious case like The Handmaids Tale (for which I understand the commentary without having read or watched it).

Media literacy has always been bad. Theres people who still think rorschach is the good guy and Frankenstein monster is the monster.

GuerrillaSoldier posted...

oh yeah, thanks for reminding me of which movie i haven't seen yet, i'll do it tomorrow

Its God tier stuff.

Wait for the sequel has been agonizing.

Rika_Furude posted...

It is simply an abomination. A crime unto food. Like a microwaved steak

Amen.

Pretty cool.

Coldplay didn't change the music they were making much, they were always cheesy and sentimental af; it was just "in" during the first few albums and is less trendy now.

Within reason yes. Not a chance kids are paying attention in the classes

I made a Robin hood account in 2020 and have never even used it lmao

O_Town_Rulez posted...

Took a chance and turned down a job with the same pay to stay and a month later got laid off due to a "company restructure."

There was only 3 people in my branch office, not counting field workers, so the restructure was just to eliminate my position. I feel so foolish for taking that risk and staying because they promised me a promotion and now I'm unemployed.

See if the old company is still looking.

I had almost the exact same thing happen to me 8 months ago and it almost ruined me financially

DaxNovalis posted...

Not when there are entire squadrons after them. The Jedi who survived Order 66 did so because they ran, not because they fought.

Those aren't mutually exclusive, as the surviving jedi proved. They all had to fight at some point. They all took down dozens of troopers in the process. Kanan, Cal, Ahsoka, Ezra all did this. Asinine to suggest Yoda and kenobi couldn't. Heck, yoda had already taken out several hugh ranking clones by the time he decided to leave. He quite literally was just one shooting them in ROTS at the end there. Jedi are no joke and the troopers are no match. That's proven beyond any shadow of a doubt.

Obi-Wan never mentions the Rebellion, neither does Yoda. All Obi-Wan said was that he was going to Alderaan. And although they probably had heard of it, as Luke knew about them, neither of them were going to change their plan.

Yeah. Their plan was stupid. If anything, fighting on the front lines would've made Vader distracted due to his personal beef with kenobi, and lessened the chance that he finds our about luke(which prior to Disney comics revealing we never actually learn how he found out)

Are you really trying to suggest that prior to the show we were to believe bail organa and kenobi had no communication about the statuses of rhe respective Skywalker kids they were supposed to be guarding? That's far fetched. He was going to alderaan likely for that reason. If anything the movie implies he'd been there before.

They didn't lie to him his entire life. The only time Obi-Wan wasn't honest was when he mentioned he knew Luke's father and talked about him. Prior to that, he didn't say anything to him about it. I imagine it would be a bit off putting to mention he had left him for dead burning on a lava bank.

His entire family lied to him. Owen, Obi Wan, even Yoda, and for no real reason. Thsir gamble that he was gonna raid the death star and bring his kid to him without Vader ever finding our and before he was ready was a pretty out there one. He didn't even have to tell him he did all that. He could've just said his dad lost his way, turned against them and was defeated.

He concocted a lie he had others perpetuate for the entirety of Luke's childhood. Not a chance Luke never asked Owen about him.

Because Rey didn't have the same connections that Luke did. Vader was Luke's father, discovering that the parent you thought long dead was alive is going to throw anyone off. Obi-Wan and Yoda knew this would be a danger, which is why they were so worried when he rushed off.

It was a lost connection that caused the issue. Not that there was one. Rey also lost a connection when she had to accept her parents were never coming back, and that they were no ones who abandoned her. That sort of thing could EASILY send someone to the dark side, and that is what kylo ren forced her to confront. Rey was at her lowest and most vulnerable moment and Luke knew it.

The whole thing was planned. Lando was in place as a prison guard, Threepio and Artoo were "gifted", Chewbacca was "captured" by a "bounty hunter", Han was freed from the carbonite. Someone can't plan for every single contingency but all one has to do is listen to what he says to Han on the skiff: "Just stick close to Chewie and Lando. I've taken care of everything."

Even if I give you this, it doesn't change that Luke generally figures his way out of problems rather than planning for every eventuality. He has slip ups and makes mistakes. He absolutely did not plan to have to fight the rancor or he wouldn't have tried to negotiate with Jabba in the first place. He had assets to get him out if it but he wanted it to go over without a hutch at all.

There would be nothing wrong with taking on his nephew, especially if he was Force sensitive. And it doesn't address that he just leaves others to suffer for his mistake.

First off, yes there would be because he would be biased and have a connection compromise the master student relationship and blind him to problems and lead him to emotional moves... which is exactly what happened.

Secondly, how are you going to condemn Luke for doing the exact same thing you're defending kenobi and Yoda for doing? He was following in his masters footsteps lol. The difference is there actually WAS very little he could do. The resistance was barely a thing, there was no longer any jedi collective, and his presence would only exacerbate the first orders efforts. His beif absent was the only reason that the destruction of the republic didn't happen sooner.

cjsdowg posted...

Bullshit, even in this topic we have people justified Luke almost murdering

No justifying something that didn't happen. He had a lapse of jdgement and longingly stared at his weapon for a bit. He was never going to murder anyone there, he didn't almost do anything. Kylo swung at him.

-ZIO- posted...

Forcing the corporations and the rich to incorporate changes to reduce emissions. You know that won't happen, though.

Were going to survive.

Sephiroth_C_Ryu posted...

These "activists" are hired goons to make climate activists look bad.

There is zero reason any normal climate activist would just try to ruin art. They would sooner try to sabotage fuel refineries or attack rich people if they were willing to break laws.

Theres stupid people in every movement. Even the good ones.

Thing is they are more than likely gonna go after the taxpayers to cover thsi cost so these ppl are indirectly harming the very folks they're trying to represent.

Ur username is awesome

He might be cooked

Technicals seems to want him unbanned to an extentb

cjsdowg posted...

Who has asked for that? No one said they want anything like that. There big break between being a boy scout with that does go to what we got. And just like with Finn this movie gave Luck Anti development. He ends up where he was the last time we saw them after they regress for some unknown reason

Lmfao no, he absolutely doesn't. He has. Accomplice character arc that ends with him completing his journey in the movie.

Yall are just saying anything at this point.

Necronmon posted...

The Yuuzhan Vong were the best thing from the EU and far better enemies then anything introduced in the Disney era...far better then all the jokes of enemies in the High Republic.

The YV are dumb af in concept. Barely even makes sense.

Also has everyone realized scotty is trolling yet

DaxNovalis posted...

Kanan didn't really fight, just blocked some of Crosshair's shots. Hunter just let him go since he didn't get the kill order. Characters like Ahsoka were trained enough to defend themselves but even with that she was on the run most of the time.

That doesnt really change what I said. The jedi are more than equipped to handle it.

I feel like you're just ignoring what the OT and PT spell out clearly for the viewers. There's nothing to misunderstand, the movies make it very obvious through dialogue why Obi-Wan and Yoda went into hiding and waited until Luke and Leia were older. There is no "They could have done this" because there was no Rebellion when they left. They made a long term plan and didn't deviate from it. As far as we could tell, neither of them were much aware of the Rebellion.

That's not true, even in the OT Obi Wan is familiar with the members of the rebellion including Leia. It is implied that Yoda has some knowledge of it at least, he seems familiar enough with their status against the empire to warn Luke. We know from rebels that he aided the rebellion as well.

It's not the same. Luke's unreadiness wasn't only due to him not being trained enough but also that he wasn't ready to handle the truth about Vader. Even if he was a match for Vader, Obi-Wan and Yoda knew he would waver once that came out. And with him being young and impressionable, there was a possibility of him turning as a result.

I mean, thats also their fault because they lied to his face for his entire life about it.

Luke wouldn't have the same concerns about Rey as Obi-Wan and Yoda did about him.

Why not? Luke had reason to believe Rey would falter because she basically infited the dakr side and explored it. It's not the exact same but its similar enough.

So...did you pay attention during these movies? Getting captured was part of the plan. It's why Luke is so indifferent on the sail barge and reassures Han not to worry. He already had everything in place beforehand (Lando as a guard and Artoo on the barge with his lightsaber). Did you not pick up on this later when Threepio and Artoo were "gifted" to Jabba before Luke showed up?

Im pretty sure Luke planned on freeing him without getting strapped to a sail barge and having to fight a rancor. Yes he had contingencies but it still went sideways.

I saw him as someone who left when things got tough. Instead of owning up to his mistake and trying to rectify it, he left like a coward. Unlike Obi-Wan and Yoda, Luke had no plans other than to eventually die.

Things got tough before he left. Long before, he'd been struggling with Bens swaying emotions for a period of time. He stayed, violating his principles by even training him. It was only when he actually set off the domino effect that got all of his students killed that he became convinced that he was the problem. He thought his action was him presevjgn his loved ones.

Im in my late 20s and can easily pass as a high schooler, so younger. If I keep eating well and take care of my skin maybe I can retain this, I feel it will be beneficial in my 30s

Smallville posted...

how about michael bay movies?

I enjoy aspects of them. Even if heavily flawed

One of them is already basically royalty right

Im a fan of any and all things transformers.

Have been since I was 8 years old

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She hulk has titania. Not sure who else

specialkid8 posted...

Damn near everyone from any major show. You've got stuff like GoT and Lost that were the absolute biggest things at the time and introduced a bunch of hot new actors whose careers want almost nowhere afterwards.

Evangeline lily is wasp but yea aside from that

ssb_yunglink2 posted...

The photos of MTG came out, and people are saying shes disgusting, calling her a super mutant from fallout, and other awful things. Frankly, thats really fucked up.

We have weight loss topics on this very board and its kind of messed up that some of yall are probably judgmental to anyone whos not toned and skinny. Judging people based on the way they look is awful.

I seriously thought wed be better than this here.

Did you? Did you really?

I didnt.

[I agree with you btw]

His acolytes aren't gonna take this well.

DaxNovalis posted...

If you call barely surviving okay, then yeah. Regardless, they weren't the only Jedi besides Obi-Wan and Yoda to make it through Order 66. Kanan and Quinlan Voss also made it, along with others. Obi-Wan runs into another random Jedi in his series but basically tells him to GTFO as he's hiding out.

Kanan, who was barely a fully fledged Padawan at this state. Thats only helping my case that jedi can handle these guys.

It wasn't a stupid plan, it was their only one. They lost and were being hunted, there was nothing else they could do at that point. Yoda didn't even know who or how many Jedi were still out there.
ROTS did address the remaining Jedi when Obi-Wan sent out the message for any that received it to stay away from Coruscant and to go into hiding. It was all they had time to do.

There was a bunch they could do. The non jedi started up a rebellion movement almost immediately, one that would ultimately be the thing that takes down the empire. Jedi like ahsoka and kanan would go on to be massive factors in this rebellion themselves. Yoda meanwhile sits alone. At least now we know kenobi actually did take action to help thanks to the kenobi show. Prior to that we were to believe he also say on his ass.

So no there was plenty they could do. They simply chose not to. Ad the thing is that's fine but at least when Luke does it he has a reason.

He barely made it because he rushed to face Vader before he was ready. Both Obi-Wan and Yoda told him this in ESB but he ignored it. But they also knew he would find out about Vader if he faced him, so were also notably concerned about how that would go.

Same with luke and rey.

That would only be true of him in episodes 4 and 5. Luke had already learned from those mistakes by ROTJ. It's why he's the more calm and confident Jedi throughout that movie. The only time he comes close to that again is in his fight with Vader but he quickly realizes what's happening and stops himsRey.

Not true. Luke almost got himself killed in rotj by a rancor because his strategy was to bust onto Jabbas stronghold unfamiliar with the territory and having no real bargaining chips. Then all of them get captured and nearly die again. Luke just isn't that great of a plans guy. He kinda just runs in, and figures his way out. Thats always been his way.

I saw Luke in TLJ as someone who had completely forgotten all the lessons he had learned and thought it made the character look bad.

I see him as someone with the same failings but more wisdom. Someone's whos empathy for the weight of his actions made him figure the best thing he could do was to not be there. Which again was an impulsive decision.