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Just became the first person to go 7-0 in a St lotus discord Vintage Rotisserie Draft with this beauty

https://www.moxfield.com/decks/naoWNibimUiJ48YCW94KMA

The fun thing was I realized around pick 34 that Demonic tutor was still out there and I dumped the white from my deck and hard pivoted into black to shift from a mid range deck into oracle combo,

It obviously worked out but thats why there are so many random white cards in the side board

Yeah, I early picked two of the 6 mana fliers to see if I could make it work.

I could not make it work

Drafted a grindy UB proliferate deck and it went way worse. Thinking this is another proactive format

Every time a new set comes out Im reminded how excessive the elo rollbacks are

First draft 7-0 with RW equipment

Bronze players had no chance

UltimaterializerX posted...

Bringing back infect is among the stupidest decisions possible so of course they do it. These people are idiots.

Toxic is a lot more mild than infect. The fact that it doesn't give -1/-1 counters means that blockers don't get ground to nothing and it also makes it so the poison doesn't scale as much as the power

Ended up 6-3 with that blink deck

I have moved oracle of the alpha from unplyable to "Playable but you really really need good card selection"

If you can dig through your library then spending your entire turn casting card draw spells is fine if you also end up playing time walk

Having said that, drafted a blink deck and took oracle of alpha for kicks

Mull drifter + blink kitten + oracle of alpha + temeshi reality architect was the dumbest sequences of turns I ever took

Ended up with 30 cards in hand digging for my alrunds epiphany

pyresword posted...

I've been playing Alchemy since that is the format for the Mythic Qualifier next month, and I'm here to report that running Displacer Kitten and Oracle of the Alpha is definitely a recipe for reasonable and honest games of Magic the Gathering.

I generally like the Arena Opens, but I'm already bad at Limited in general and the Arena Cube specifically I have no experience at all in, so I'd probably just be wasting resources.

Is oracle of the alpha even good? I never end up picking it in drafts because half the power 9 isnt even a good top deck. Adding effectively 5 lands to my deck after my opening hand seems bad. Fast mana is good because in your opening hand it is busted as hell. Not on turn 4+

Havent gotten a really good handle on the cube but entered the open just to support cube draft with stakes.

got an embercleave 4th pick but then red Aggro got cut hard which left me with a pretty mediocre UR spells deck.

Did not win 7 games

UltimaterializerX posted...

Hacked data suggests they only sold 2300 of those M30 boxes. Good.

I think the bottom is going to fall out at some point on singles of it.

Sure you can list a M30 black lotus for $10,000

is anyone actually paying that ever

Ooh oops wrong topic

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/80264601

Looks like we are finally getting to answers with 7

So probably time for a new topic

Oh wait, Kannon repeatedly called himself not human.

Wonder if somehow that is related to freeing Battler

tcaz2 posted...

If you don't solve it on your own, don't worry. Most people don't. Which is the same for most mystery novels, really.

That said, my advice would be you don't need to actually reread a whole lot to solve this particular mystery. But if you can't or don't want to, feel free to just move on. Episode 7 will probably make a lot of things more clear.

Ok let's just do a quick run down

People it basically can't be
If these people aren't real the plot basically falls apart

1. Kraus
2. Eva
3. Rudolph
4. Rosa
5. George
6. Shannon
7. Kannon (Due to the last bit)

I don't see how it is realistically possible for it to be any of these people tier

1. Natsuhi
2. Hideyoshi
3. Jessica
4. Gohda
5. Kumasawa (Only due to her conversations with Erika)
6. Maria

So that leaves 4 right?

1. Battler
2. Nanjo
3. Genji
4. Kyrie

I don't think it is Genji. I think too much falls apart without him, Kyrie doesn't do enough for her to be integral to the plot, but I think what really falls apart is if she isn't a human on the island what the hell happened to Angie's Mother? This doesn't seem likely

1. Battler
2. Nanjo

Neither of these would surprise me. The biggest problem with Battler is similar to Kanon if he isn't a human on the island how did he get locked in the room?

Could it be Nanjo? There was that weird unsolved Nanjo mystery in episode....3? Could that be solved by him not actually being there?

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/6/2/7/AANz_VAAD9FT.jpg

Feels like Nanjo is the odds on favorite here if someone doesn't exist. How this works at all? I don't know, but it feels like every character besides him would have even more baggage if somehow they weren't human.

The other option I suppose is not a "This person is dead" theory but maybe this person goes by another name, or maybe two people are the same person. Could this be true?

In this case.... Shannon and Kannon being the same person seems most likely maybe? No that doesn't work due to that red truth erika gave about names. Hmm

HMMMMMMM

Might have to just keep moving

Also I can never not notice all the attacks being Blue/Red/Gold now

The fact that I know that is meaningful but I can't quite put into words why exactly each attack is the color it is bothers me (Such as the gold arrows that come from the bunny peoples)

There probably is a really obvious explanation but nothing really lines up off the top of my head

Where is the wiki of attacks to review >_>

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/6/0/6/AANz_VAAD9E-.jpg
Gets me every time

16 humans eh?

Instantly my mind goes back to my crazy theory that Battler is Kinzo. Could Battler not be real?

I can see the appeal of playing these episodically because I wonder if there is some 6th sense trickery going on where a character is not actually interacting with anyone.

Looking at the list of people nobody really stands out as plausible...

Ah, but some of those conversations could be like the fake conversations Natsuhi and Kinzo had

Yeah, without replaying hours I don't think this is solveable and I have already sunk enough time into this.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/5/8/8/AANz_VAAD9Es.jpg

Damn son

I mean it could be that Beatrice exists and saves battler

Not sure if that would be allowed

Well looks like we are almost there

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/1/4/9/AANz_VAAD891.jpg

Maybe Kinzo somehow does exist for this game?

I don't see any red truth over the number of people on the island for this one.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/1/4/3/AANz_VAAD89v.png

Hmm

Is there any way we can get a second person into this room before we seal the door?

Who would that person be? We have in red truth there are just 17 people on the island right?

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/1/1/8/AANz_VAAD89W.jpg

Ugh

You really going to make me do this game

Without love it can't be seen eh?

And everyone is currently taped in the other two rooms?

So I guess the question is what could Battler be able to see that Erika couldn't due to that fact that everyone hates her

I feel like the easy answer here goes back to Battler possibly lying from his perspective when he said he saw Kinzo and say that some of the setup Erika did could also be untruthful, but I don't know how that possibly could tie into love.

HMMM

Also Erika being able to make moves retroactively is kind of Bull shit

HMMMMM

I feel like maybe there is an out here with Erika being the culprit

could erika kill everyone without magic?

Maybe I was a game too early? With Erika being the culprit could some of her actions be possible without supernatural help?

It is late and when it swapped back to lovers I decided it was time to go to bed.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/2/1/2/AANz_VAAD8vM.jpg

Dlanor is the best

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/2/0/5/AANz_VAAD8vF.jpg

I don't actually hate this logic

I thought it was dumb that Battler got himself into this to begin with. When Erica sealed Battlers room he probably should have also retroactively changed what was said in the note

But at this point

For the record with Erika sealing the rooms....

If I were Battler and I was playing to win I would just

Not have anyone else die.

This is 100% not what is going to happen but what better way to win the game than to just end it right here

But he is dead.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/0/8/8/AANz_VAAD8tQ.jpg

You know, this reminds me of something I've been thinking about

Why the hell was kinzo drinking those green potions in the first game relevant to literally anything? If Kinzo was dead.... then why? Why did the smell matter at all?

Hope that comes back up at some point

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/6/4/5/AANz_VAAD73d.jpg

I am extremely annoyed

I feel like there are enough hints here that I should be able to get this but I don't and my first instinct is to blame the game for being too long which has made me forget the details of every episode

Is there like a summary of all the episodes that are only the facts given. I want to piece this together

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/6/2/3/AANz_VAAD73H.jpg

You know, there are always only 4 colors

Red
Blue
Gold
Purple

I've wondered for a bit if there was a tie in between the red swords and shields in the anime fight scenes and red truth

Now that I have seen gold text that also popped up

I wonder if purple text exists and what it could mean

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/8/0/3/AANz_VAAD7ar.jpg
I just don't buy this dialogue coming from Kyrie

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/7/2/0/AANz_VAAD7ZY.jpg

Damn Kyrie

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/0/4/9/AANz_VAAD7O5.jpg

Hmm, so humans can use gold truth?

That's interesting. I remembered seeing gold truth before but looking it up doesn't provide context of what that could mean.

Could go back to an old save to try to glean context but too lazy

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/0/3/9/AANz_VAAD7Ov.png

Wut

tcaz2 posted...

Yeah honestly I almost don't even notice pacing issues in VNs anymore I'm so used to it.

I dunno if its just VN + LN writers or if non-LN published authors in Japan have the same issue but they reeeeeeally like to use 1,000 words for a scene that should take 200. It's ridiculously common even in very well regarded examples of the media, more so than the same could be said of regular novels in the west that I've read (not that it doesn't still happen mind, see: Wheel of Time after the first few books, for one, but its much less common just based off my experience).

I'm not a big VN player, but the last VN I played was the House in Fata Morgana and while there were certainly some slower parts, even the slowest parts were quicker paced than the slow parts in Umineko

While the highs of Umineko have blown the highs of Fata Morgana away, I would 100% recommend Fata Morgana over it right now just because its such a tighter story

Zigzagoon posted...

Umineko

Snappy

Pick one.

I mean you say this, but there have been flashes of complete brilliance that just zoom. Some of the chaotic scenes for one, but even the Maria/Rosa stuff moved pretty briskly in a enthralling way

Then we have a 19 slide power point of why Natushi is the killer >_>

tcaz2 posted...

I'll remind you what Episode 5 tried to get across: It's being presented this way, so it's probably important in some way that it is.

Basically, flip the chessboard around: If it ISN'T nonsensical that it's being presented this way, why is it being presented this way? What is Battler trying to convey with this plot line in his story?

I will say that personally I wasn't a huge fan of Ep6 on initial read either, but I've come around on it a lot since.

No, I don't mind the weirdness,

I guess I'm saying it has been very slow, and I feel like the same ideas could have been conveyed in a much snappier manner

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/1/9/AANz_VAAD7M3.jpg

Part of the reason my updates have been slow (Other than holidays and sports) is this entire premise is fairly nonsensical and I completely agree with Jessica here

I think the twist of what Battler is doing here is interesting in premise, but the execution of it has fallen flat.

We be dragging again

I've been reading off and on for 15 minutes at a time and losing interest. Definitely feels like this part could have been streamlined

Wait

Is it plausible nobody is actually going to die in this game and Battler is going to try to prove the existence of witches based on the love of Kannon and Shannon

That would be hilarious

This was a pretty funny combo

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/6/6/7/AANz_VAAD48T.jpg https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/6/6/8/AANz_VAAD48U.jpg

Usually didn't matter because I was base UR but I did make someone discard their last two cards for the win once!

There is nothing more glorious than your opponent playing overly cautious leading to you hitting your one outer

Uh oh

TeamRocketElite posted...

Erika is very popular. Did you think she wasn't?

Yeah this surprises me. Shes a total ass

Didnt grab a screen shot but Erikas rhetorical dismembering of Maria was both entertaining and felt a little superfluous.

Also Erika is great dont @ me

https://www.facebook.com/sportsnation/photos/a.390201576099/10160256356481100/?type=3

tcaz2 posted...

It's not explicitly stated on purpose. You're suppose to be wondering why it matters right now.

I never know with this game! Thought maybe I just forgot and it was said 50 in game hours and several real months ago in chapter 2 or something

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/5/1/AANz_VAAD3J_.jpg

I'm missing something here. I'm not sure why Shannon running off with George matters here

Not sure if missed something or vague hint at something

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/2/2/AANz_VAAD2LC.jpg

Ok, so this feels somewhat crazy, but is there some way that Battler is Kinzo?

Like it makes no sense at face value, but it feels like everything is hinting at this. Battler more than 6 years ago is not going to have a relationship with Beatrice if Battler is ... what 16 or something?

And it would tie in to how he has been missing and has a special connection only Kinzo has and such