From: Forceful_Dragon | #047
I don't think DotA should get rid of denying, obviously, because it is very much a part of dota at this point, but I do think people need to reconsider this notion that denying is innately superior or even necessarily makes a hell of a lot of sense.
I don't think anyone has said anything like this. We say it makes for a good gameplay mechanic. Combos were an accident in fighting games. Something being unintentional initially doesn't really have an effect on its validity as a game mechanic. And I don't really care at all about how logical a game like Dota is. We could also say things like "it doesn't make sense for Nature's Prophet to fight against the Radiant" but it isn't really a big deal.
From: Forceful_Dragon | #047
This isn't the first time this has been mentioned in this topic, but it is ENTIRELY possible to completely freeze a lane in LoL. All it requires is their lane to start to push and for you to manage the amount of ranged minions the other side has. You can still completely freeze them out, you just have to make sure you aren't attacking any more than you need to so you keep the proper balance in effect.
So... you can equilibrium farm in LoL just like you can in Dota if you get lucky and the creep waves happen to start in the enemy's favor. Doesn't really seem that great.
As for Drow/Sniper/Clinkz...
Drow is the only ranged AGI carry with an AoE disable. Her ult makes her slightly less item dependent than other carries so Drow can still do okay in situations where she doesn't have as much farm as she'd like.
Clinkz is more naturally durable than other ranged carries because of Death Pact. Also he makes the jungle unsafe for the enemies to farm, causing the opponents to have to play more cautiously. This gives him a team presence that Drow/Sniper can't provide. Competitive teams have used Clinkz a few times recently and he's done this job fine, completely shutting down the opponent's jungle.
Sniper has the largest range in the game and his shots can disrupt the target. This allows him to counter heroes with long cast animations/channels, which is something neither Drow nor Clinkz can do. Sniper can offer early pushing through Shrapnel.
Sure, all three of these heroes right-click to deal their damage but that's just the nature of the role. Through everything you said about Ashe/Caitlyn/Vayne... they still right-click enemies to deal damage. I don't think it's really fair to say they're the same hero because of that.
From: Forceful_Dragon | #046
Although if DotA 2 is free with micro transactions or at least not HORRIBLY expensive I'll probably still play it once it goes live.
Completely free. Cosmetic items, announcer packs, alternative couriers, etc are things that they'll have as DLC. Apparently there's a "twist" that they haven't announced yet, so maybe we'll be surprised. It's definitely free to play with access to all heroes though.
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