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TopicWhat if Judge Napolitano was awesome? (Official Ron Paul 2012 topic)
OmarsComin
02/19/12 12:10:00 PM
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until it ever starts happening anywhere in the world with socialized medicine, can we drop the "let's pull the plug on old people" thing

I think it's pretty clear that people who are in favor of of socialized medicine are in favor of it at any cost, and don't consider killing old people to save money a reasonable option. that's why they believe in universal healthcare in the first place. I can understand why this would be incomprehensible to some of the hard conservatives in the media who think poor people dying of starvation or disease is a great thing because it proves that the free market is working.

as far as healthcare goes, I think almost everyone here is in agreement that Obama's healthcare thing is kind of awful and doesn't actually accomplish it's goals, while also limiting our freedom. I'm all for getting rid of it. Unfortunately, the politicians who are yelling "repeal Obamacare" are unlikely doing it because they want to fix it. They're doing it because a Democrat wrote it. They wouldn't replace it with a healthcare system that actually makes sense.

Pretty sure we've been over this a million times before. You can't just say "slippery slope" and leave. You have to actually respond to the argument and prove how the two conditions are unrelated.

we don't have to prove that they aren't related. you have to prove that they are! you have to give an argument why one would lead to the other. then everyone decides whether it's valid. slippery slope might not be a fallacy all the time, but in practice it mostly is.
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