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TopicDo you think that Donald Trump/GOP cheated in the 2024 presidential election?
DnDer
11/29/24 11:07:06 PM
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Define cheating.

Gerrymandering?
Closing DMVs and voter registration locations?
Voter ID laws?
Reducing polling places?
Making it harder to stay in line long enough to vote?
Voter roll purges?
Redistricting?
Redistricting and giving SCOTUS the finger when even they tell you that your districting is so fucked, but leaving it long enough that you have to use the fucked maps anyway?
A postal service barely able to handle mail in ballots because the last guy to cheat that is still there and unable to be removed even 4 years later?
Making absentee balloting harder?
Removing or restricting dropboxes?
The usual institutional racism?

All that shit is somehow legal and within the bounds of "the rules." Technically not cheating. But it's systemic and systematic and has been for decades, chipping away at the power and will of the public to even engage in voting.

And then there's things like being so complicit with Russia that when they call in bomb threats across multiple states, you don't even flinch, or release a statement saying you oppose attempts to sabotage the election?

And then there's that sus thing going on about the count. We had a 5+ page thread about that everyone pooh-poohed and thought wasn't even worth looking into. Not even an accusation of cheating, but, "That's some deeply weird shit we need to just examine and figure out what's going on," and people were all, "Stop being conspiracy theorists like the last 4 years." Telling enough that there should be some kind of congressional investigation.

And that thing Trump said about having a secret weapon in his little Johnson. Was it bluster or openly admitting to cheating? We couldn't possibly investigate, because then we'd be as bad as the red hats for asking people to open their books to public scrutiny.

So... did Trump and the GOP cheat to win? Fuck yeah. Every moral and ethical analysis is a big yes to that. Did he break the law cheating to win? Probably, but it's unlikely to be provable, and should be something we at least examine on the record before we get a fascist back in the big chair.

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