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TopicAre da celestial dragons da most vile and hated group in anime history?
Uta
09/13/25 3:52:18 PM
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inTaCtfuL posted...
Give me a rundown on what makes them vile and hated iyo

please
These guys are the tippy top of the World Government. They control the Marines as well as most other nations. Celestial Dragons themselves are all supposed to be descendants of the rulers of the 20 or so nations that united to repel some great evil. (I forget the specifics, but I'm pretty sure it was pirates). Today they are almost all ugly slobs so detached from reality they literally wear space suits to avoid breathing the same air as commoners. In the modern era they're the main proponents of slave trading, with many of the Strawhat's allies having direct ties to having escaped the slave trade or survived a genocide. The time skip literally happens because Luffy punches a Celestial Dragon and the fallout from that ultimately forces his crew to temporarily disband and start training.

As for why Vegy made this topic. It's because The most recent chapters are about how the Celestial Dragons every 3 years choose one lucky island to become their private hunting grounds. The Marines capture everyone on the island, swap out their clothes for ones with targets on their back, and then set them loose. The Celestial Dragons then compete to see who can score the most points, with certain bloodlines being worth bonus points over the common folk. The manga straight up shows children being victims of this too. It's pretty fucking dark. Like, one of the God Knights literally creating a field of deadly spikes under a child and taunting the child to jump down. Only for that kid's father to show up and then the knight kills him.

So yeah. Slavery, multiple genocides, and tons of historical erasure.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IX2EfnTc_Eg
Like this scene is Hachi literally gets shot by a Celestial Dragon. I think mostly because he was begging to not have his friend sold into slavery, and then blaming himself for getting shot and begging Luffy not to do anything about it, because Hachi deserved to get shot for daring to impose on them.

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