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Topic~FIGHT!~ Tidus, Frog, Link, Tails and Kaos vs. Bowser
IfGodCouldDie
05/14/17 6:10:57 AM
#84:


KanzarisKelshen posted...

Thing is the only evidence presented against me so far has amounted to pretty much "lol nope." If these battles are supposed to be looked at as real time cut scenes, how do you explain them being hit by the equivalent of a bus traveling at 60mph right near the edge of a lava pit and not falling in?


The abillity to fly from two of them and a third one (Frog) having what is basically a grappling hook in his tongue come to mind. Basically the problem is this: any one survivor plus Tails can beat Bowser. For Bowser to win, the shell has to kill everyone but Tails. This is a really, really tall order. We're talking a best case scenario here, not a regular situation. At least personally, what I usually do is set a spectrum between 'team reacts like they have no brains' and 'team reacts like this is I Wanna Be The Guy and they've grinded out enough for a no-breaks no-deaths run' and start trying to think about how that goes, introducing small changes each time. For Kaos to be stunned so hard he forgets he can fly, Frog to forget he has a tongue that can save him, Link to forget to use Fairy, Tidus to not be able to jump, Tails to be unable to fly and rescue anyone, and all of those dudes to lack the reflexes to react when multiple of them (Tidus and Tails especially) are demonstrably superhuman in that area, a lot of things have to go wrong. It's not impossible, but it's improbable. Your job as a leader isn't to construct an argument where your team wins. It's to construct a probable argument where you win, something the consensus agrees is the most likely way a fight goes. Skyridge's team massively failing with no survivors/no survivors bar Tails is highly improbable.

If you look at their starting area, Frog has no where to grapple to(the side walls would still allow him to be hit as he would take a diagonal path towards them,) the cast time of fairy is longer than a third of a second(as I am being generous and doing the math with the shell ten yards away,) Tidus cannot move faster than 60mph, and I have not actually seen evidence that Kaos can teleport. Now if I am wrong in any regard please provide the evidence. At this point I am no longer arguing to win because people are clearly voting based on personal bias but I just want to understand how anyone can think everyone gets out of the way.
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