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hypnox posted...

Honestly yes, gun control is a problem, but I believe this stems from the lack of mental health accessibility and screenings. His teachers should have been able to see something wrong with him long before this. But even if they had, the ability to get mental health isn't that accessible for most. Hell even with my "good" insurance seeing someone would be 40 dollars. And with most of them wanting to see you once a week that's 160 dollars. Not everyone can afford that.

It's an intersection of multiple factors, and you are right that for-profit health care is one of those factors.

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It depends on the shooter's motive. Some of these people can be treated. Some of them cannot be treated but can be *stopped.* The Buffalo shooter could not be treated, but he could have been stopped.

Blightzkrieg posted...

The idea that these shooters fall under the typical scope of mental illness is largely bunk. Shooters often aren't diagnosed with any mental illnesses, and when they are, these illnesses aren't usually typified by mass violence.

You cannot paint mass shooters with broad brushstrokes, that's true. But I think you misunderstand a bit. Ready access to mental health care is a long-term preventative measure that *everyone,* including those who do not have mental disorders, benefits from.
You're working backwards, too. "shooters aren't often diagnosed with any mental illnesses" That's part of the issue. People have material needs that are not being identified and met.

adjl posted...

whole post

This.

teddy241 posted...

main stream lifestyle today.
The issue isnt guns. Its mental health.

Why does it only happen in the USA then? Why doesn't Canada have the same rampant issue?
Don't be so reductive. This is an intersection of problems that is most heavily facilitated by easy access to weapons (and armor) of war.

I can easily name like... five things off the top of my head we could do to reduce this shit (and most of them are actually multiple points):
1 universal health care that includes mental health care and prescriptions.
2 gun legislation, so background checks, red flag laws, psych evals, and stricter teaching of gun safety
3 invest in political deradicalization efforts with a particular focus on misogyny, as it is one of the greatest common denominators found among mass shooters.
4 promote healthy gun culture. Guns are not extensions of your masculinity and ego, they are not idols, they are not the solution to all your political woes. They are tools. If you want to learn how to safely use one, go right ahead, but if you don't understand that, you aren't mature enough to handle them.
5 Reinstate the Fairness Doctrine.
6 Investing in local communal services and reworking our urban planning to promote communal activity/interaction (this would actually solve a fuck-load of other issues the USA has).