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Topic	Is BJJ the only traditional marital art that works?
ScazarMeltex 01/13/23 9:19:27 PM #40:	Tyranthraxus posted... The problem is that it's practically impossible to pull that off unless the shooter is distracted somehow. Virtually every video demonstration of trying to rip a gun out of someone's hand results in the trigger finger winning that race. You also need to be pretty accurate with your hands while the person with the gun can afford to be sloppy. I don't really know how the dynamic changes when the gun starts holstered and the other person is already within grappling range but generally speaking, in a real life or death situation, 100% of hand to hand combat experts recommend a gun. Honestly it changes pretty quickly. The Tueller rule (21 foot rule) is actually very accurate. The average person can cover 21 feet in 1.5 seconds. Tueller specifically applies to a person armed with a knife against an opponent with a holstered gun. There have been hundreds of experiments run on it, mythbusters even did an episode covering it. Basically at 21 feet the guy with the knife gets shot right as he reaches the dude with the gun. Closer than that and guy with the gun gets stabbed. So for grappling it's a bit different but you can assume a similar outcome. --- Furthermore, The GOP is a Fascist Organization and must be destroyed <cite>ScazarMeltex posted [p:970828620] in Is BJJ the... [t:80310995]...</cite> <quote>Tyranthraxus posted... </cite><quote>The problem is that it's practically impossible to pull that off unless the shooter is distracted somehow. Virtually every video demonstration of trying to rip a gun out of someone's hand results in the trigger finger winning that race. You also need to be pretty accurate with your hands while the person with the gun can afford to be sloppy. I don't really know how the dynamic changes when the gun starts holstered and the other person is already within grappling range but generally speaking, in a real life or death situation, 100% of hand to hand combat experts recommend a gun.</quote>Honestly it changes pretty quickly. The Tueller rule (21 foot rule) is actually very accurate. The average person can cover 21 feet in 1.5 seconds. Tueller specifically applies to a person armed with a knife against an opponent with a holstered gun. There have been hundreds of experiments run on it, mythbusters even did an episode covering it. Basically at 21 feet the guy with the knife gets shot right as he reaches the dude with the gun. Closer than that and guy with the gun gets stabbed. So for grappling it's a bit different but you can assume a similar outcome. --- Furthermore, The GOP is a Fascist Organization and must be destroyed</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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