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Wtf is this

Prisons used to teach aikido to its guards.

interesting.

Isn't aikido the worst art out there?

I feel like if your trained in a martial art to the level of black belt or equivalent the average Joe will have a hard time. I mean if you know Sambo (Russian martial art), Kung fu, Jeet Kun Do, Shaolin, Karate, Krav Maga you would be at an advantage. The real test is if your opponent also has a style, which could lead to them having an edge depending on if said style could counter.

Nah there are martial arts that use weapons. I think someone trained in some weapons focused martial arts and wielding their weapon can beat a bjj practitioner most of the time. By beat i mean kill.

And I with a gun and minimal training could kill them.

Clearly we ain't talking about weapons

We are supposed to be defensive not offensive. It's all about getting em to the ground and restrained (cuffed) and I suppose if you know what you are doing aikido works for that.

Sadly we don't get enough training to master shit so we end up mostly with basic wrestling moves lol. The one technique everyone seems to actually remember and use idk what school or martial arts it comes from but we call it an armbar takedown

Get the arm straight pull their hand to your waist line have a hand on the upper arm/shoulder and spin while going down to one knee. Executed right they WILL go down on their face. Our instructor demonstrated its effectiveness by having his partner just grab his belt while he without using hands spun going down to one knee and still brought him to the ground.

Most of our other moves make use of bending the wrists of the opponent. If you actually know how to do it it's fucking effective. Bend the wrist just right and they will go wherever you want

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I had no idea Gun Fu exist

Seems useless. Being that close to someone renders a gun as not the best option for killing/fighting.

Guns are literally the best option for killing someone in a fight at any range and only get more effective the closer you are.

but I personally classify boxing as a sport

Joint manipulation is practical. So is Greco-Roman wrestling. BJJ is kinda like combining both. Like Pankration in the modern era.

Pretty practical to learn some kind of basic stand up striking martial art like Boxing or Muay Thai and a grappling art like Wrestling or Judo.

It really doesn't take a lot of force to rip a gun out of someone's hand. You just risk getting shot doing it if you ain't quick enough.

Wtf is this

The problem is that it's practically impossible to pull that off unless the shooter is distracted somehow. Virtually every video demonstration of trying to rip a gun out of someone's hand results in the trigger finger winning that race.

You also need to be pretty accurate with your hands while the person with the gun can afford to be sloppy.

I don't really know how the dynamic changes when the gun starts holstered and the other person is already within grappling range but generally speaking, in a real life or death situation, 100% of hand to hand combat experts recommend a gun.

but I believe there is a version of Krav Maga that the military uses that is supposed to be very effective.

what about Krav MAGA? >_>

I am not sure what you are asking. I said I meant the military version of it, not the one from crap dojos that say they are real Krav Maga. and the internet search showed it spelled Maga not all capitalized, so what are you asking me exactly?

• Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, Regular Jiu-Jitsu, Wrestling, Aikido, etc.

• Muay Thai, Wing-Chun, Jeet-Kune-Do, etc.

• Kicking -> Taekwondo, Karate, many types of Kung-Fu, many other Martial Arts
• Punching -> Karate, Boxing, many types of Kung-Fu, many other Martial Arts

It's a make america great again joke

Oh sorry I am pretty oblivious at most times sadly. Thank you for explaining.

lol, yeah that was it. I was thinking it would be funny if there was a donald trump-based shitty ineffective martial art that was actually just the equivalent of doing nothing at all except maybe making slight hand movements.

In terms of actual legit Krav Maga, I don't know much about it, only that it's highly effective for those well trained in it, and that it's prominent in Israeli military/intelligence.

The problem is that it's practically impossible to pull that off unless the shooter is distracted somehow. Virtually every video demonstration of trying to rip a gun out of someone's hand results in the trigger finger winning that race.

You also need to be pretty accurate with your hands while the person with the gun can afford to be sloppy.

I don't really know how the dynamic changes when the gun starts holstered and the other person is already within grappling range but generally speaking, in a real life or death situation, 100% of hand to hand combat experts recommend a gun.

Gymkata

All Traditional Martial Arts work, that's why they're called "Martial Arts", but contrary to movies you cannot beat simple math, or "physics" if you prefer.
It doesn't matter how well you're trained, if you're half the size of the guy you're trying your "Martial Arts" on, and he has a semblance of training, he's winning.
Someone with longer reach, and who is twice the strength of you, and triple the Grip Strength -- is winning 9/10 times -- that is why Boxing, and almost all martial arts have weight divisions.