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Topic	Was Joel justified in his actions? (Last of Us Spoilers)
Punished_Blinx 03/14/23 8:46:22 PM #125:	KogaSteelfang posted... The infection she was immune to? The one that didn't infect her? From 3 weeks earlier. Joel was concerned that they'd detect her infection several months into their journey. Her unique infection is 100% treated as a Cordyceps infection. By Joel, Tess, Ellie, Marlene, all the fireflies, even the detectors. Everything but the dogs. There's no reason at all the assume it behaves like an entirely new entity, when it's still just a different strain. Nobody until Salt Lake City knows about the cordyceps in her brain that already existed since around her birth. They're basing it on the bite in her arm which didn't end up spreading. Perhaps over time even the monitor doesn't detect it anymore as the newer infection completely died off from her immunity. That could explain why the monitors detected it and the dogs didn't. Hell she already had an entire life with cordyceps in her brain with no problem. Are we assuming that she was never tested for infection previously? Even after her birth? KogaSteelfang posted... hat's what I'm saying. Nothing points to them even trying that. Like, at all. It's straight to child murder with no other considerations of possibilities. Separation made them stupid In the show we only have one conversation from their perspective. In the games we only have two. If they detect there's no traces of cordyceps in her blood and saliva then logically there is no point trying to do anything with it. The unique factor which everyone is focused on is the cordyceps implanted in her brain. If that is indeed the big unique factor (and again basically everything in both the games and show point to this) we know what the conclusion is. KogaSteelfang posted... Or... It's a basic fungus until gets into a host and can grow. Like we see in the opening credits, it's more like a slime mold. Assuming that's representing Cordyceps. Which, why wouldn't it be And we know that the fungus that gives her immunity isn't growing out of Ellie's blood and saliva. It's not trying to spread in the same way as the regular strain. It seems to just be lodged in her brain, defends her from new infections and that's it. KogaSteelfang posted... Why? If they just need to crack her open and ingest the fungus? We don't know what the extracting process is or what happens with cordyceps when it is removed from the brain. We know from the games that Fireflies were specifically studying how it grew and infected the brain. KogaSteelfang posted... Well, you pointed out she has no tendrils. So would the slimy brain fungus look much different from regular slimy brain goo? They'd eat it, gain her immunity, or toss even toss it out and it's just grow into the ground right? We've seen that it does that until it can infect more hosts. Heck, it's looking more and more like just slaughtering her at any point would be a better option that bringing her to the fireflies. Again they didn't know until they brought her until the hospital. --- A Fallen Mascot <cite>Punished_Blinx posted [p:972177270] in Was Joel j... [t:80378186]...</cite> <quote>KogaSteelfang posted... </cite><quote>The infection she was immune to? The one that didn't infect her? From 3 weeks earlier. Joel was concerned that they'd detect her infection several months into their journey. Her unique infection is 100% treated as a Cordyceps infection. By Joel, Tess, Ellie, Marlene, all the fireflies, even the detectors. Everything but the dogs. There's no reason at all the assume it behaves like an entirely new entity, when it's still just a different strain.</quote>Nobody until Salt Lake City knows about the cordyceps in her brain that already existed since around her birth. They're basing it on the bite in her arm which didn't end up spreading. Perhaps over time even the monitor doesn't detect it anymore as the newer infection completely died off from her immunity. That could explain why the monitors detected it and the dogs didn't.Hell she already had an entire life with cordyceps in her brain with no problem. Are we assuming that she was never tested for infection previously? Even after her birth? KogaSteelfang posted... </cite><quote>hat's what I'm saying. Nothing points to them even trying that. Like, at all. It's straight to child murder with no other considerations of possibilities. Separation made them stupid</quote>In the show we only have one conversation from their perspective. In the games we only have two.If they detect there's no traces of cordyceps in her blood and saliva then logically there is no point trying to do anything with it. The unique factor which everyone is focused on is the cordyceps implanted in her brain. If that is indeed the big unique factor (and again basically everything in both the games and show point to this) we know what the conclusion is.KogaSteelfang posted... </cite><quote>Or... It's a basic fungus until gets into a host and can grow. Like we see in the opening credits, it's more like a slime mold. Assuming that's representing Cordyceps. Which, why wouldn't it be</quote>And we know that the fungus that gives her immunity isn't growing out of Ellie's blood and saliva. It's not trying to spread in the same way as the regular strain. It seems to just be lodged in her brain, defends her from new infections and that's it. KogaSteelfang posted... </cite><quote>Why? If they just need to crack her open and ingest the fungus?</quote>We don't know what the extracting process is or what happens with cordyceps when it is removed from the brain.We know from the games that Fireflies were specifically studying how it grew and infected the brain. KogaSteelfang posted... </cite><quote>Well, you pointed out she has no tendrils. So would the slimy brain fungus look much different from regular slimy brain goo? They'd eat it, gain her immunity, or toss even toss it out and it's just grow into the ground right? We've seen that it does that until it can infect more hosts. Heck, it's looking more and more like just slaughtering her at any point would be a better option that bringing her to the fireflies.</quote>Again they didn't know until they brought her until the hospital. --- A Fallen Mascot</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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