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I don't really want to get into an extended argument about it, but some real quick wrist slaps for Marth.

UnderUrMattress posted...

##Vote: EDumey

Nah this is just too suspicious. You knew that Chris was a visitor of the dead as well as Death and yet you steamrolled Death and enabled everyone to push on a false premise, despite some of us thinking it may have been a good idea to possibly vote outside. Then Chris makes it into your hood and suddenly he's hard outed mafia.

In fact if I'm not mistaken, we were campaigning for ctes to be potentially be voted out instead of Death. Chris vetoed it, and so did you so that the bodyguard could get lynched over the dude that seems outed into oblivion.

Plus you were my first vote and my first vote tends to be right on this site! :D

I neighbored Chris because Wallz didn't want to out himself right away, and we thought Chris was protection. So I was bringing him into the loop to make sure he "protected" Wallz and didn't buy into the idea that Wallz was spent power. (which is maybe dumb because pretty much everyone in the game assumed he was lying about that anyway, but it was the plan Wallz and I agreed on because he didn't want to reveal in topic.)

You're also wrong that Ctes was being campaigned instead of Death. If you just go back and reread that day, the alternative to Death was SULTAN, who was hard pointed at MZero. Near the end of the day, there were people mentioning the idea of lynching Sultan and having him pointing at Ctes, but Sultan was never on board with that plan, and wasn't going to switch off of MZero until the Red Watch was resolved. The narrative that I lynched Death over someone "outed to oblivion" is completely made up and incorrect.

UnderUrMattress posted...

Death was lynched when Chris was also incriminated with a visit - EDumey said nothing
ctes was notioned to be lynched on d2 - EDumey quickly denied it
SirChris is added to the neighborhood over someone like Peace___Frog (tbh would've failed) or ME - EDumey had control over this
Somehow Chris became outed mafia despite being added into the hood over pretty much anyone else - ???
And now EDumey is trying to get Sultan lynched over an outed mafia

Death was lynched when we had reason to believe Chris was protection and didn't want to out him.

I was not going to entertain the lynch of anyone other than Lopen on D2. I'm pretty sure you're referring to me asking Corrik why he was so sure of Ctes in his PoE when he hadn't done much, and then after Corrik elaborated, I explicitly agreed that Ctes fit into a lot of potential scum teams.

I had an explicit plan to visit Chris because Wallz and I believed him to be protection, so getting his info is much more valuable than visiting you for no reason.

Chris wasn't "outed mafia" and in fact, the entire D3, I argued to lynch Ctes over Chris or MZero because I wasn't sure of who was scum between them. This point of yours is completely made up.

And yes, I explained MANY times yesterday why I believed the correct play was to test Sultan first, which players like MZero and Corrik both agreed with and saw the value in it.

Do yourself a favor Marth and actually reread some of these things you're accusing me of. Things like saying I was avoiding a Ctes lynch when I have been pushing for Ctes to die since D3 is just insane. Your entire argument is thinking that I visited Chris for some nefarious reasons, when visiting the person I thought was protection to confirm info with them is like the most obvious usage of my role I can think of, past visiting scanners which I already had done.