Board 8 > Video Game Console Mafia - Topic 9: Square Eyes

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The sheep-man (now just reduced to a single sheep), lies immobile, sick and bedridden. He's decided to take a day off, to really get back to what he enjoys about gaming after so much destruction and hatred towards the industry has been channeled over recent weeks. For hours, he's mesmerised by the beauty of the best console of '95, tapping away in sheer delight, before spilling orange juice on it. The system shuts down, never to return. He sobs through the night.

Wallz has died! He was Virtual Boy, TOWN Watcher.

Notorious for making eyes bleed, its your turn to bear the brunt of the pain, as you keep those pupils peeled all night in the search for some wrongdoers.

As a Watcher, each night, you may pick a player to watch. You will be told of any players you witnessed visit them that night.

You win when all threats to TOWN have been eliminated.

Living Players

1) UltimaterializerX
2) MZero
3) Corrik7
4) ctesjbuvf
5) Obellisk
6) EDumey
7) UnderUrMattress

The Dead

LD1: BlueCrystalTear - TurboGrafx-16: TOWN Vanilla
KN1: Leafeon13N - 3/2DS - TOWN Manual Hammerer Flavour Cop/Cop
LD2: Lopen - SNES: MAFIA Untargetable Roleblocker
LD3: hteaD - Xbox One: TOWN Bodyguard
LD4: SirChris - Xbox: MAFIA Strongman
KN4: Peace______Frog - NES: TOWN Odd/Even Jailkeeper/Commuter
LD5: TheSultanOfSlam - Arcade Cabinet: TOWN Quickdraw Vengeful
KN5: wallmasterz - Virtual Boy: TOWN Watcher

It is now Day 6. With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch. Day ends on Sunday at 7PM, in ~48 hours.

So this game was thrown because of terrible town play. Yay.

Glad to be a part of this.

##vote: Ctes

A literal rout probably gonna turn into a loss.

Corrik7 posted...

So this game was thrown because of terrible town play. Yay.

Haven't you been on basically every mislynch

And Wallz besides your terrible revealing of information killing death,. I am glad you got schooled on Sultan. Literally impossible for him to be scum with his interactions with Lopen. If you listened at all, this game would have 2 less mislynches. You had the strongest town role, and did the most to torpedo town here. Tsk tsk.

Not amused.

ctesjbuvf posted...

Haven't you been on basically every mislynch

Don't come in here with your scum nonsense acting a fool. Just sit there and die. Now that we are getting rid of people who won't listen, this won't take long.

It's not nonsense, you hammered Sultan while he was considering what to do with his shot. You were on Death too.

why the fuck was the day ended when I specifically asked for it to not be?

##Vote: Ctes

I'm not really sure what happened with Sultan. Either he didn't point his gun and was a fool, or since we think there's a chance of a mafia backup, we forgot to factor in the idea that ctes could be untargettable. Is that why he kept baiting me to talk with him? I have no idea.

I still think it was the mathematically correct choice to test Sultan when we did, and not leave it until later when there was reason to suspect him and be put into an unpredictable situation due to the volatile role he had, but now no more distractions.

I will probably take a moment to yell at Marth in a moment for his craziness after I went to bed the previous day, but first my action, I talked with Wallz since I knew he was likely to die and wanted to give him a chance to give a last will. He did a big ISO of SBell for the whole game and thinks we should look SBell's direction as the last scum after Ctes. Will summarize his points in a little bit.

ctesjbuvf posted...

It's not nonsense, you hammered Sultan while he was considering what to do with his shot. You were on Death too.

And I was on the scum strongman day 1. Was I on that mislynch? Enlighten me.

Sultan said repeatedly he was aimed at you prior. I went back and read. You gleefully voted for Sultan knowing he was aimed at you already because you knew you wouldn't die to it.

That hammer was desperate as f*** but thank god Sultan for some reason decided to not point at me while considering it.

Obellisk posted...

why the fuck was the day ended when I specifically asked for it to not be?

You have like 14 posts this game. Sorry if no one cared about that 1. Lol.

That's bad form to put the blame on Wall, when MZero and I both outlined reasons for why we thought Sultan was scum. Peaf also thought so before dying. There was a lot of town that had reason to want to test Sultan. The shot not going off if just something we didn't really expect.

EDumey posted...

I'm not really sure what happened with Sultan. Either he didn't point his gun and was a fool, or since we think there's a chance of a mafia backup, we forgot to factor in the idea that ctes could be untargettable. Is that why he kept baiting me to talk with him? I have no idea.

Still not mad but disappointed you have not. I would have been nicer as you asked.

EDumey posted...

##Vote: Ctes

I'm not really sure what happened with Sultan. Either he didn't point his gun and was a fool, or since we think there's a chance of a mafia backup, we forgot to factor in the idea that ctes could be untargettable. Is that why he kept baiting me to talk with him? I have no idea.

I still think it was the mathematically correct choice to test Sultan when we did, and not leave it until later when there was reason to suspect him and be put into an unpredictable situation due to the volatile role he had, but now no more distractions.

I will probably take a moment to yell at Marth in a moment for his craziness after I went to bed the previous day, but first my action, I talked with Wallz since I knew he was likely to die and wanted to give him a chance to give a last will. He did a big ISO of SBell for the whole game and thinks we should look SBell's direction as the last scum after Ctes. Will summarize his points in a little bit.

Ctes voted Sultan knowing Sultan was pointed at him. Really all needed to know. The question then becomes, how was peaf able to block the kill from him if he is indeed not targetable. Or does he have to keep choosing one of the things to use? Used strongman through peaf, then activated untargetable yesterday?

The host note clearly kinda infers the shot went off but failed.

Also you have wanted to lynch me for days because I was successfully jailkept.

EDumey posted...

That's bad form to put the blame on Wall, when MZero and I both outlined reasons for why we thought Sultan was scum. Peaf also thought so before dying. There was a lot of town that had reason to want to test Sultan. The shot not going off if just something we didn't really expect.

Wallz called me out specifically as if I was stupid and I had to ELI5 him because it didn't make sense. Everything I said is obvious from day 2. The fact I have to keep repeating this over and over to this game is actually immensely difficult to handle.

The only thing I have been off on is where townpower deliberately mislead us without revealing information.

Corrik7 posted...

You have like 14 posts this game. Sorry if no one cared about that 1. Lol.

you could just say sorry for fucking up.

ctesjbuvf posted...

Also you have wanted to lynch me for days because I was successfully jailkept.

You were successfully jailkept and blocked of a kill because I said you were scum and peaf actually listens.

I said since Day 2 scum was Lopen Death Ctes Chris. I spelled out why.

Death was unfortunate because Wallz withheld Chris was the killer to red which would have cleared him.

I was on lea/Chris day 1 because it was obvious they were purposely laying low that day to ride it out. And lo and behold. Mafia Strongman. Go... figure...

Obellisk posted...

you could just say sorry for fucking up.

I didn't fuck up. I specifically campaigned to voting ctes directly. It was -1 to 2 votes total. The people spoke. I tried to get the next day up quicker. Sheep did us dirty.

Has Corrik seriously begun suggesting some BS role stuff and flavor meta to suggest I'm scum now? This is worrying.

This is very simple. If ctes flips godfather, last scum is sbell. If ctes doesn't flip godfather, last scum is Marth.

It's literally this simple guys.

If you don't wanna listen and win, just lynch me now because I am beyond aggravating at this point.

Corrik7 posted...

I didn't fuck up. I specifically campaigned to voting ctes directly. It was -1 to 2 votes total. The people spoke. I tried to get the next day up quicker. Sheep did us dirty.

we were on the cusp of lynching ctes and you ensured we didn't.

the people spoke? since when are you ever a team player and willing to go with status quo...

Corrik7 posted...

I was on lea/Chris day 1 because it was obvious they were purposely laying low that day to ride it out. And lo and behold. Mafia Strongman. Go... figure...

Either you're cfrw or you're making this up because you knew. That slot was basically not playing (and not laying low) the vast majority of the day.

@Corrik7

That hammer was fucking bullshit.

Obellisk posted...

we were on the cusp of lynching ctes and you ensured we didn't.

the people spoke? since when are you ever a team player and willing to go with status quo...

-1 for Sultan. 2 votes total for Ctes. Was tied before it swung that way. Your analysis of cusp and trend are wrong.

ctesjbuvf posted...

Either you're cfrw or you're making this up because you knew. That slot was basically not playing (and not laying low) the vast majority of the day.

Chris replaced in and purposely laid low. You know this on your scum board. It's why I voted for Chris under let's name purposely.

Lea's*

Corrik7 posted...

I didn't fuck up. I specifically campaigned to voting ctes directly. It was -1 to 2 votes total. The people spoke. I tried to get the next day up quicker. Sheep did us dirty.

You were very insistent on lynching me until the moment Sultan said something that resembled considerations of shooting elsewhere. That seems like a funny coincidence doesn't it.

It's either EDumey or Corrik7. No one, including EDumey has convinced me that he's town.

UnderUrMattress posted...

It's either EDumey or Corrik7. No one, including EDumey has convinced me that he's town.

Edumey literally can't be scum. I hope you are scum so you aren't actually this bad. Thankfully Ctes flip will give us an assured answer there one way or the other.

ctesjbuvf posted...

You were very insistent on lynching me until the moment Sultan said something that resembled considerations of shooting elsewhere. That seems like a funny coincidence doesn't it.

I applaud your effort instead of rolling over. Everything you are saying of course is not true, but that is okay. You are trying.

Unfortunately for your team, it's been dead in the water for literally days. It just depends on whether town will do the obvious or not.

Corrik7 posted...

It just depends on whether town will do the obvious or not.

well we tried yesterday but you had to fuck us with that.

no one else was going to hammer sultan.

Obellisk posted...

well we tried yesterday but you had to fuck us with that.

no one else was going to hammer sultan.

Final votals
[5] Sultan - Ulti, Wallz, MZero, Ctes, Corrik
[1] Ctes - (Corrik), (Marth), Sultan
[1] Dumey - Marth

You sure "tried". It was 3-3 and then 4 - 2. Ctes himself made Sultan -1. Marth was off in lala land. And I guess one of your 14 posts this game wasn't a vote for the person you were trying to lynch.

I don't really want to get into an extended argument about it, but some real quick wrist slaps for Marth.

UnderUrMattress posted...

##Vote: EDumey

Nah this is just too suspicious. You knew that Chris was a visitor of the dead as well as Death and yet you steamrolled Death and enabled everyone to push on a false premise, despite some of us thinking it may have been a good idea to possibly vote outside. Then Chris makes it into your hood and suddenly he's hard outed mafia.

In fact if I'm not mistaken, we were campaigning for ctes to be potentially be voted out instead of Death. Chris vetoed it, and so did you so that the bodyguard could get lynched over the dude that seems outed into oblivion.

Plus you were my first vote and my first vote tends to be right on this site! :D

I neighbored Chris because Wallz didn't want to out himself right away, and we thought Chris was protection. So I was bringing him into the loop to make sure he "protected" Wallz and didn't buy into the idea that Wallz was spent power. (which is maybe dumb because pretty much everyone in the game assumed he was lying about that anyway, but it was the plan Wallz and I agreed on because he didn't want to reveal in topic.)

You're also wrong that Ctes was being campaigned instead of Death. If you just go back and reread that day, the alternative to Death was SULTAN, who was hard pointed at MZero. Near the end of the day, there were people mentioning the idea of lynching Sultan and having him pointing at Ctes, but Sultan was never on board with that plan, and wasn't going to switch off of MZero until the Red Watch was resolved. The narrative that I lynched Death over someone "outed to oblivion" is completely made up and incorrect.

UnderUrMattress posted...

Death was lynched when Chris was also incriminated with a visit - EDumey said nothing
ctes was notioned to be lynched on d2 - EDumey quickly denied it
SirChris is added to the neighborhood over someone like Peace___Frog (tbh would've failed) or ME - EDumey had control over this
Somehow Chris became outed mafia despite being added into the hood over pretty much anyone else - ???
And now EDumey is trying to get Sultan lynched over an outed mafia

Death was lynched when we had reason to believe Chris was protection and didn't want to out him.

I was not going to entertain the lynch of anyone other than Lopen on D2. I'm pretty sure you're referring to me asking Corrik why he was so sure of Ctes in his PoE when he hadn't done much, and then after Corrik elaborated, I explicitly agreed that Ctes fit into a lot of potential scum teams.

I had an explicit plan to visit Chris because Wallz and I believed him to be protection, so getting his info is much more valuable than visiting you for no reason.

Chris wasn't "outed mafia" and in fact, the entire D3, I argued to lynch Ctes over Chris or MZero because I wasn't sure of who was scum between them. This point of yours is completely made up.

And yes, I explained MANY times yesterday why I believed the correct play was to test Sultan first, which players like MZero and Corrik both agreed with and saw the value in it.

Do yourself a favor Marth and actually reread some of these things you're accusing me of. Things like saying I was avoiding a Ctes lynch when I have been pushing for Ctes to die since D3 is just insane. Your entire argument is thinking that I visited Chris for some nefarious reasons, when visiting the person I thought was protection to confirm info with them is like the most obvious usage of my role I can think of, past visiting scanners which I already had done.

Confirmed town wallz and mzero were already on Sultan and not leaving. Ctes was not leaving because he wanted to be shot at and get the milsynch. Ulti wasn't leaving.

Mzero at least had good reasoning which I did agree his reasoning was at least somewhat sound. Wallz was just literally completely utterly wrong in every sort (again).

Next, going to try to paraphrase some of Wallz work on thinking SBell was scum. Will be a minute, because he did a whole ass ISO and I can't quote directly from it.

Corrik7 posted...

Final votals
[5] Sultan - Ulti, Wallz, MZero, Ctes, Corrik
[1] Ctes - (Corrik), (Marth), Sultan
[1] Dumey - Marth

You sure "tried". It was 3-3 and then 4 - 2. Ctes himself made Sultan -1. Marth was off in lala land. And I guess one of your 14 posts this game wasn't a vote for the person you were trying to Sultan.

I asked the EIGHT other players in the game not to hammer. You said "fuxk sbell, I'm hammering 38 hours early".

So go fuck yourself with this 14 post bullshit.

Obellisk posted...

I asked the EIGHT other players in the game not to hammer. You said "fuxk sbell, I'm hammering 38 hours early".

So go fuck yourself with this 14 post bullshit.

Maybe shoulda used one of those 14 posts to vote for Ctes instead of ask people to not hammer and spend 38 hours watching you maybe get to 15 posts. Maybe.

EDumey posted...

Next, going to try to paraphrase some of Wallz work on thinking SBell was scum. Will be a minute, because he did a whole ass ISO and I can't quote directly from it.

Sbell is literally no point looking at right now. If Ctes flips not godfather, the last scum is godfather and sbell isn't claiming miller as godfather.

We literally have a paint by numbers in front of us. It just requires not being bad.

##vote: corrik

here's post 15.

see ya day 7.

Obellisk posted...

##vote: corrik

here's post 15.

see ya day 7.

Honestly may be his first vote this game. Kinda proud of him.

All I need is 3 other town who want to win and this game is over. You lynch ctes. He flips godfather or not. It reveals if the last scum is Marth or Sbell. It's literally that simple. We can do speedrun it. We can take 400 years. I don't care. I'll get my "man, corrik is really good at this game and no one listens" regardless of how we do it or whether yinz decide to screw it up. It's all good regardless. Just decide if you wanna win or lose. Thats all it comes down to.

I'm too tired for this probably, so I'll do some rethinking tomorrow hopefully, but Corrik isn't making sense to me. He usually doesn't elaborate the most of all of us, but hes usually good at least had valid cases. It has been suggested I am like ninja and strongman and untargetable and maybe godfather and some of those have even flipped.

And yet it must be so simple.

ctesjbuvf posted...

And yet it must be so simple.

Well, in your defense, you gotta find ways to try and find 2 mislynches. You need me as 1. But the problem is how do you get the 2nd. Because if you do get me first, I flip town, and then they probably wake up and listen.

Does Corrik insist this much on his idea as town? Even at this game state it'll probably be easy to defend having mislynched me after N3, so might be worth it I guess. Might be worth looking back at what Corrik said his idea of the game was at what points.

ctesjbuvf posted...

Does Corrik insist this much on his idea as town? Even at this game state it'll probably be easy to defend having mislynched me after N3, so might be worth it I guess. Might be worth looking back at what Corrik said his idea of the game was at what points.

My mindset has been pretty one note all game. Have fun with it.

Corrik7 posted...

Well, in your defense, you gotta find ways to try and find 2 mislynches. You need me as 1. But the problem is how do you get the 2nd. Because if you do get me first, I flip town, and then they probably wake up and listen.

You realize I said the simple thing because you were saying game is that simple but what you're presenting builds on some absurd suggestions of what I would be.

Like people lold at ninja strongman (which have been disproven) suggestions then wtf is this