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TheSavageDragon posted...

Why? You continue arguing against a point I never made. I'll bold it this time

A MAGICAL SPELL THAT DOESN'T CONJURE A PHYSICAL ATTACK

That's my initial statement, the thing you claimed to have debunked and yet have provided nothing but physical attacks like lightning.

The being is magical. He punched and uses lightning. Why is that any different from throwing a fireball if they're both magic oriented. You're literally arguing semantics to waste time.

But here:

https://www.quora.com/Has-Superman-DC-Comics-ever-beaten-anyone-whose-powers-were-magic

TheSavageDragon posted...

Half of those aren't even a thing. Conventional Superman being the way he's been written since the Bronze Age barring outlying events such as the time he was split into 2 beings with electrical powers. It nearly isn't as complicated as you're making it out to be

https://character-level.fandom.com/wiki/Superman_(Pre-Crisis)

https://www.comicbookwire.com/reading-order/dc/superman-new-52-version/

and I also meant golden age, not platinum >_>

https://superman.fandom.com/wiki/Golden_Age

TheSavageDragon posted...

Dear lord... Again, you're the one making the claim. I never was making any claim but taking issue with yours. Your claim is akin to claiming Superman is a murdering dictator because he did so in the Injustice universe. That's not who conventional Superman is and neither is the one you attribute this never seen before power to.

TheSavageDragon posted...

They are! As recent as last year Felix Faust landed an illusion spell on him. And unless Faust is working with some powerful entity he is low on the DC magic totem pole.

TheSavageDragon posted...

Again, you're trying to turn this into a thing I haven't been discussing with you. I've never made the claim a certain FF character would be able to kill Superman. I've made the counter claim in regards to yours that non physical magic affects Superman while magic conjuring a physical thing like fire or lighting doesn't or does very little. That's it. Because that's a thing that's been shown throughout the ages to work on any conventionally written Superman.

And again you've just restricted Superman to a "conventionally written Superman"

This is stupid lol. I guess we're playing by your rules now. Define "conventionally written". Because nothing Superman does in the DC universe is "conventional" by subjective standards. Shooting eye beams? Blowing up planets? Pulling a chain of planets in space?

You're just trying to dilute him to the point where he can be affected by FF magic. Whereas if this was a topic against Dragonball, you'd be sure as hell people would be pulling out the most insane versions of Superman to beat Goku (And rightly so, if there weren't any rules stated).