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Topic	Every YouTuber is jumping on the anti Star Wars Battlefront II Loot Box train.
AllstarSniper32 10/13/17 8:58:58 PM #63:	EvilMegas posted... And yes, I think if you got a full priced game you should get little add-ons like this for free. OK, then let's take the Overwatch example. You'd pay full price for the game, they'd include some skins for each character and whatever cosmetic items they'd have in the game. Then you wouldn't get any more cosmetic items because they're not going to put time and money into something that they're not getting any money back from. There'd be no new heroes, no new skins, no new maps. They're just "little" add-ons, but someone still has to make them and that person still has to be paid. Think back on games before there were cosmetic items you could buy. Yes, they'd put more of them in game, but once you have all of them, there's no more. EvilMegas posted... Why are you defending spending more money on a game anyway? Because it's not that bad unless it gives you actual gameplay bonuses in PvP cases. And also because if I really like a game, I'm OK with spending money on it for the things I really want which also helps the game last longer which means more content will come out. I'm not saying someone should just spend money on every game they play that has microtransactions. adjl posted... It's not just that you have to put time in to get stuff, it's that the loot box system pads that time to an absurd degree in an effort to maximize the likelihood that players will spend money to speed it up. It basically makes the content unattainable unless you're extremely serious about getting it or you're willing to gamble away potentially large amounts of money (and even then you don't have a guarantee, because gambling), and in that case, I'd MUCH rather they just be honest and put it behind an explicit paywall. While I do agree that earning loot boxes does take too long in some games. The loot boxes are just a bonus, like cosmetic items themselves are just a bonus. For a lot of people, it's more exciting to open a loot box and see what you randomly get rather than just buying whatever you want. And if you could just buy whatever you wanted, I bet the price of each item would increase. Let's say, you can use in game currency to buy an OW loot box. Let's say that loot box costs, oh 100 coins. Would you spend 3000 coins on that one legendary event skin you want or would you buy 30 loot boxes for a chance to get it? Some people would buy the skin, some would buy the loot boxes. Now I wish you could use OW coins to buy loot boxes XD Final Fantasy2389 posted... As EvilMegas has said, I would be way more acceptable if OW just gave out currency or charged for currency like GTA V does. As he also said, currency would allow you to buy exactly what you want. The way it is now, you could buy 20 boxes and still not get what you want, so you have to grind some more or spend more money for a RANDOM chance at getting the item you want. If they had a currency they just gave out, they would have a second currency that people could buy. How are people not understanding that the video game company needs to make money and if they don't make money there won't be more content added to the game? --- If the people only understood the rank injustice of our money and banking systems, there would be a revolution before morning - Andrew Jackson <cite>AllstarSniper32 posted [p:888389574] in Every YouT... [t:75870405]...</cite> <quote><cite>EvilMegas posted...</cite> <quote>And yes, I think if you got a full priced game you should get little add-ons like this for free.</quote> OK, then let's take the Overwatch example. You'd pay full price for the game, they'd include some skins for each character and whatever cosmetic items they'd have in the game. Then you wouldn't get any more cosmetic items because they're not going to put time and money into something that they're not getting any money back from. There'd be no new heroes, no new skins, no new maps. They're just "little" add-ons, but someone still has to make them and that person still has to be paid. Think back on games before there were cosmetic items you could buy. Yes, they'd put more of them in game, but once you have all of them, there's no more. <cite>EvilMegas posted...</cite> <quote>Why are you defending spending more money on a game anyway?</quote> Because it's not that bad unless it gives you actual gameplay bonuses in PvP cases. And also because if I really like a game, I'm OK with spending money on it for the things I really want which also helps the game last longer which means more content will come out. I'm not saying someone should just spend money on every game they play that has microtransactions. <cite>adjl posted...</cite> <quote>It's not just that you have to put time in to get stuff, it's that the loot box system pads that time to an absurd degree in an effort to maximize the likelihood that players will spend money to speed it up. It basically makes the content unattainable unless you're extremely serious about getting it or you're willing to gamble away potentially large amounts of money (and even then you don't have a guarantee, because gambling), and in that case, I'd MUCH rather they just be honest and put it behind an explicit paywall.</quote> While I do agree that earning loot boxes does take too long in some games. The loot boxes are just a bonus, like cosmetic items themselves are just a bonus. For a lot of people, it's more exciting to open a loot box and see what you randomly get rather than just buying whatever you want. And if you could just buy whatever you wanted, I bet the price of each item would increase. Let's say, you can use in game currency to buy an OW loot box. Let's say that loot box costs, oh 100 coins. Would you spend 3000 coins on that one legendary event skin you want or would you buy 30 loot boxes for a chance to get it? Some people would buy the skin, some would buy the loot boxes. Now I wish you could use OW coins to buy loot boxes XD <cite>Final Fantasy2389 posted...</cite> <quote>As EvilMegas has said, I would be way more acceptable if OW just gave out currency or charged for currency like GTA V does. As he also said, currency would allow you to buy exactly what you want. The way it is now, you could buy 20 boxes and still not get what you want, so you have to grind some more or spend more money for a RANDOM chance at getting the item you want.</quote> If they had a currency they just gave out, they would have a second currency that people could buy. How are people not understanding that the video game company needs to make money and if they don't make money there won't be more content added to the game? --- If the people only understood the rank injustice of our money and banking systems, there would be a revolution before morning - Andrew Jackson</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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