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TopicWhy are 7 deadly sins so deadly?
Mister_Spyker
02/14/18 10:03:25 PM
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cuttin_in_farm posted...
I feel like you're adding definitions to these words. Your definition of greedy is off, for example. Greed is a selfish want, yes. But not necessarily at the cost of others. Not to mention the threshold for "selfish" is subject.

Having pride is not arrogance. Pride is about acknowledging who and what you are and being utterly satisfied with what you bring. You can have pride in others too, btw.

Your lust is an utterly made up implication. It's sexual desire. Even if you love someone, you're going to eventually lust for them.

Another unfounded implication for envy. I can be grateful for friends I have, and still envy the greater quantity of friends others have.

Forgiveness is for your self, so wrath preventing forgiveness of others isn't bad. It's smart to not always ttry to forgive. Like pain, wrath ensures we do not injure ourselves further.

If you eat only when you're hungry, some people will have a hard time getting bigger. Gluttony says nothing about the healthiness of food. It's indulgence in food. Nothing more.

Call it a different perspective, but I think you're reaching with some of these.

Well, if we are to aknowledge them as sins, I figure we are seeing them in the perspective that I'm talking about.

Greed (also called avarice, in most latin countries, where the idea of deadly sins comes from)
Avarice -
1.
insatiable greed for riches; inordinate, miserly desire to gain and hoard wealth.
This speaks for itself. If you are seeking wealth and riches in such a way, you are very likely to trample over other people in order to reach your objectives.

You are talking about a healthy pride, but according to a dictionary, pride can have both meanings:
1. a high or inordinate opinion of one's own dignity, importance, merit, or superiority, whether as cherished in the mind or as displayed in bearing, conduct, etc.
2.
a becoming or dignified sense of what is due to oneself or one's position or character; self-respect; self-esteem.

The first is harmful, the second is healthy.
Also, the concept of sin comes from a religious viewpoint, in which you should attribute any pride you would have in yourself to God. In a christian perspective, as the apostle Paul said, "So that, as it is written, 'Let the one who boasts, boast in the Lord.'". If life comes from God, and your accomplishments are only possible because of his permission, then you cannot attribute your good actions to yourself, but only thank him because he is the essence of all that is good in this world. Apart from him, there would only be evil. If you are going to judge the 7 deadly sins, you have to see them from the perspective through which they were thought of, whether you agree with the perspective or not.

I think that when it mentions lust, it's with the implication that it's not towards your significant other. There is some form of ardent passion towards a loved one in religious texts, mainly songs of solomon, in the judeo-christian faith, so that passion is not wrong, and is merely the natural reaction of two people who love and are attracted to one another.

I disagree with you on wrath, I find forgiveness to always be the best choice for both parties. Noone wins for being hurt. When you forgive someone, you are releasing the hurt that they caused in you. You are making yourself free, and also freeing the other person from their guilt.

Gluttony is eating things you don't need to eat just because of how it tastes. It's filling an emotional vacuum with food. Obviously, if you have to eat to grow bigger, because of a special diet you are undergoing in order to gain muscle, that wouldn't be gluttony, because you will need that food to fulfill your goals.
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