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Topic	Is Putin really a bad guy?
Dash_Harber 07/18/18 4:32:31 AM #25:	solosnake posted... I'm just trying to be realistic about it. Hes not some boogey man. Saying he is an autocratic tyrant is not saying he is a bogeyman. solosnake posted... People say the same crap about every world leader it seems like. No, they don't. Maybe other dictators, but I, for example, haven't seen any reputable sources report on Canada attempting to cause a revolt in Alaska so they can annex it, or how Angela Merkel's 20 top critics all mysteriously died. These are not minor accusations or fringe conspiracy theories. Experts from around the world agree because of the insurmountable amount of evidence. solosnake posted... Theres always conspiracies. If you view the same thing from two different sides it looks completely different. So you are arguing for subjective morality? Are you saying that there is a way to look at it where Putin is okay for condoning the torture of homosexuals, for murdering innocent journalists who question him, or for the mountain of other things I've listed? Basically, you are saying that we should be his best friend despite his reputation for violence and tyranny, because ... there are good people on both sides or something? solosnake posted... I try not to get caught up. Its not like I am supporting Putin. I am playing devils advocate So what is your goal here? To convince people to give Putin a second chance? To convince us to ignore all the heinous, immoral, and illegal acts he's done over the years because it's no big deal? Do you feel the same way about Kim Jong Un? Al Qeada? ISIS/ISIL? Gaddafi? Saddam? <cite>Dash_Harber posted [p:905281342] in Is Putin r... [t:76818101]...</cite> <quote><cite>solosnake posted...</cite> <quote>I'm just trying to be realistic about it. Hes not some boogey man.</quote> Saying he is an autocratic tyrant is not saying he is a bogeyman. <cite>solosnake posted...</cite> <quote>People say the same crap about every world leader it seems like.</quote> No, they don't. Maybe other dictators, but I, for example, haven't seen any reputable sources report on Canada attempting to cause a revolt in Alaska so they can annex it, or how Angela Merkel's 20 top critics all mysteriously died. These are not minor accusations or fringe conspiracy theories. Experts from around the world agree because of the insurmountable amount of evidence. <cite>solosnake posted...</cite> <quote>Theres always conspiracies. If you view the same thing from two different sides it looks completely different. </quote> So you are arguing for subjective morality? Are you saying that there is a way to look at it where Putin is okay for condoning the torture of homosexuals, for murdering innocent journalists who question him, or for the mountain of other things I've listed? Basically, you are saying that we should be his best friend despite his reputation for violence and tyranny, because ... there are good people on both sides or something? <cite>solosnake posted...</cite> <quote>I try not to get caught up. Its not like I am supporting Putin. I am playing devils advocate</quote> So what is your goal here? To convince people to give Putin a second chance? To convince us to ignore all the heinous, immoral, and illegal acts he's done over the years because it's no big deal? Do you feel the same way about Kim Jong Un? Al Qeada? ISIS/ISIL? Gaddafi? Saddam?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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