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Most of those guys have the option of acting on their attraction without hurting people. Bear in mind also that a lot of child molestation isn't as overt and forcible as people tend to consider rape to be. That doesn't make it any better, of course, but it does make it easier for the person doing it to rationalize it as being consensual enough (or at least to skip the step of considering whether or not their "partner" can actually consent).

I am of course only talking about actual molestation, although things like sleeping in the bed naked with kids is obviously wrong and should prevent anyone doing that from being alone with kids in the future. If someone controls themselves fine, sucks that is what they are attracted to, but if they don't do anything harmful about it, then good for them, they are a decent human being.

Try talking to a friend about it for support, and odds are you'll lose a friend, not end up with somebody who will discourage you from applying to be a gym teacher. As long as people hear "pedophile" and think "child molester" (lumping people who consume child porn in with that), that's not going to change, which means you're going to get more people with pedophilic urges trying (and potentially failing) to handle them on their own.

Again, I do think people should come forward and I think it shouldn't be villianized to have such feelings or desires, just to actually act on them. They should get help to prevent such actions from happening, and by identifying themselves will be put in less positions where it could. Sadly humans seem to be selfish and even if such help was available, I don't think most would use it :(

I even consider virutal (anime etc) child porn should be illegal because it could escalate someone etc.

I'd actually consider that to be one of the healthy outlets I alluded to earlier. Virtual stuff is actually harmless to make, meaning consuming it isn't harmful. That's not to say its consumption isn't cause for concern or that anyone using it as an outlet doesn't need to be seeking other help to keep their urges under control, but saying that it should be illegal because its consumers might want more is like saying that money should be illegal because it might make those who have it want to steal more. Illegality should be based on actual harm, not the presumption that it might inspire somebody to escalate to something more harmful (see also: "gateway drug").

See I get that nobody directly is harmed here, and in an eventual society where people were easily identified or came forward it might be different, but in a world where there are people out there who are attracted to kids, this kinda stuff could be dangerous. Is a crime being commited? No not really, it's technically art etc, but it could lead to crimes so I think the best bet is to prevent it from being created/spread around etc. Yeah it's a legal grey spot, but I think it's worth it. Laws can be created based on the majority of people considering it best for society.

Generally a knee-jerk overreaction, but basically, yeah. Child molesters suck and deserve pretty much all the hate they get (although the "won't somebody think of the children?!?!" attitude that drives people to consider it the worst crime ever is thoroughly irrational). I don't disagree there.

It's not a knee jerk reaction for me. I worked as a teacher, care about kids, and hate the fact that we live in a world where we have to be so careful with them. None of my students were even abducted or harmed, but we had tons of security to ensure that. It seems like the worst crime because it happens to those so young and can seriously ruin/harm their lives. Rape in any form is horrid, and sex offenders should be segregated from society, but yes, many people have a strong reaction to children being abused or harmed/put in danger etc. I think it's ingrained in us.

You basically just described a concentration camp. Being based on criminal convictions instead of some politician's genocidal inclinations takes a lot of the sting out of the concept, but it's still not really a reasonable approach. Rehabilitative prison and post-release restrictions (i.e. not being allowed to work with kids) is generally going to be more reasonable, though obviously America kind of struggles with the whole "rehabilitation" thing.

Not at all, I'm talking about something better (by far) than our current prisons. You might call it a concentration camp, but it is WAY better then what we currently have. Basically full towns, with homes/apartments, that have places to eat just like normal homes, grocery stores etc. There are no kids at all though, you can't have a family inside, you can't leave whenever you want etc, but you can live a normal life otherwise (possibly even better than some since your guarrenteed a job etc). Is this perfect? Heck no, but it's WAY better then the current jail system, and would be sustainable (money wise).


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