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Topic	[VGMC] Officially announcing VGMCXIV: A Bracket Reborn -- nominations 3/13
PIayer_0 03/05/20 11:02:23 AM #35:	azuarc posted... I'm reasonably confident that Friday will work for two reasons. 1. Maybe 155 songs hit 5+ last year, but 48 hours before close, I doubt that number was even 55. 2. 5 votes is a pretty high threshold. Even if I didn't explicitly state that a 5 was guaranteed, all the 5s from last year still made the bracket. Unless we have a much higher turnout this year, it's hard to imagine 5 wouldn't be safe anyway. Locking sounds like it could have an impact on voting trends, and indeed some people might act a little differently if that security and peace of mind is worth it to them, but ultimately anyone who stops and considers should recognize that this really doesn't change much, if anything at all. It's an acknowledgement that some people are sore about watching the rising waters and feeling like they have to play the game alongside everyone else, when they'd rather just fire and forget. I'm giving them an out. Okay, I'd say you're justified in setting it for Friday then. Just gotta monitor how the line moves throughout the week! Soooo the bigger thing I actually wanted to comment on was how songs that get saved return into a different retirement division. Being able to give songs a second chance is really great, but I'm iffy on the fact that they get to knock someone else out on their way to potential retirement. It wouldn't feel great to be a strong retirement candidate in your three-pack only to get eliminated by a new challenger who dropped in from the division next door, then be denied a second chance yourself (as amusingly WWE-esque as that scenario would be). I feel like if you get a second chance, the only songs you should be able to knock out are other second chancers, not songs who rightfully made it to round 3 or 4 in their division. Why not something like 12 divisions of 16 to decide the main group of retirees, then place the 12 R4 losers (or 36 R3+R4 losers) into their own bracket to decide the remaining 4 retirements? This has the added benefit of giving R4 losers another shot at retirement, whom I'd feel are more deserving than the R1 or R2 losers. --- -Abraham Lincoln <cite>PIayer_0 posted [p:935265654] in [VGMC] Off... [t:78441962]...</cite> <quote>azuarc posted... </cite> <quote>I'm reasonably confident that Friday will work for two reasons. 1. Maybe 155 songs hit 5+ last year, but 48 hours before close, I doubt that number was even 55. 2. 5 votes is a pretty high threshold. Even if I didn't explicitly state that a 5 was guaranteed, all the 5s from last year still made the bracket. Unless we have a much higher turnout this year, it's hard to imagine 5 wouldn't be safe anyway. Locking sounds like it could have an impact on voting trends, and indeed some people might act a little differently if that security and peace of mind is worth it to them, but ultimately anyone who stops and considers should recognize that this really doesn't change much, if anything at all. It's an acknowledgement that some people are sore about watching the rising waters and feeling like they have to play the game alongside everyone else, when they'd rather just fire and forget. I'm giving them an out.</quote>Okay, I'd say you're justified in setting it for Friday then. Just gotta monitor how the line moves throughout the week! Soooo the bigger thing I actually wanted to comment on was how songs that get saved return into a different retirement division. Being able to give songs a second chance is really great, but I'm iffy on the fact that they get to knock someone else out on their way to potential retirement. It wouldn't feel great to be a strong retirement candidate in your three-pack only to get eliminated by a new challenger who dropped in from the division next door, then be denied a second chance yourself (as amusingly WWE-esque as that scenario would be). I feel like if you get a second chance, the only songs you should be able to knock out are other second chancers, not songs who rightfully made it to round 3 or 4 in their division. Why not something like 12 divisions of 16 to decide the main group of retirees, then place the 12 R4 losers (or 36 R3+R4 losers) into their own bracket to decide the remaining 4 retirements? This has the added benefit of giving R4 losers another shot at retirement, whom I'd feel are more deserving than the R1 or R2 losers. --- -Abraham Lincoln</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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