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Topic	If men have no legal say in if women keeps baby, should they HAVE to pay C.S.?
IfGodCouldDie 05/29/20 6:00:27 AM #252:	Darmik posted... You're really overlooking the guilt side of things that women have to live with for the rest of their life for both of these decisions. You don't know what it's like to be pregnant or give birth. You and I will never know. You honestly think men dont have feelings in regards to their off spring? Darmik posted... Except you are. In your ideal scenario it doesn't matter what the woman does because the man doesn't have any responsibility. Taking an abortion is a responsibility. Organising an adoption is a responsibility. Not paying for your own child regardless of what she does isn't a responsibility at all. No. My ideal scenario is a world where every child is born to a family that loves them for who they are and supports them emotionally, intellectually and financially to the best of their abilities. My ideal scenario does not include children being born in to poverty or a broken home because a woman was guilted in to keeping her baby because of religion even though she knew her only support would come in the form of a pathetic cheque because the guy that go her pregnant wasn't just a deadbeat but a vindictive asshole that refuses to make something of himself just so he wouldn't have to pay as much in child support. Do you think it was fun for me growing up in a home with no father and spending more time in foster care than with my actual mother? Knowing that I had a sister out there that I was likely never to meet? It's not a life I would wish on anyone and I've seen the other side of it when the man is forced to pay child support so he takes his kid anyway. My brother was beaten relentlessly by his father because he was bitter about having to pay child support, but because he already had to pay child support he wasn't going to do it for free. --- Mind post. XBL:Cyanide Sucker PSN:IfGodCouldDie IGN:SuperPattyCakes FC: SW-1615-6159-5504 <cite>IfGodCouldDie posted [p:939875095] in If men hav... [t:78727512]...</cite> <quote>Darmik posted... </cite> <quote>You're really overlooking the guilt side of things that women have to live with for the rest of their life for both of these decisions. You don't know what it's like to be pregnant or give birth. You and I will never know.</quote>You honestly think men dont have feelings in regards to their off spring? Darmik posted... </cite> <quote>Except you are. In your ideal scenario it doesn't matter what the woman does because the man doesn't have any responsibility. Taking an abortion is a responsibility. Organising an adoption is a responsibility. Not paying for your own child regardless of what she does isn't a responsibility at all.</quote>No. My ideal scenario is a world where every child is born to a family that loves them for who they are and supports them emotionally, intellectually and financially to the best of their abilities. My ideal scenario does not include children being born in to poverty or a broken home because a woman was guilted in to keeping her baby because of religion even though she knew her only support would come in the form of a pathetic cheque because the guy that go her pregnant wasn't just a deadbeat but a vindictive asshole that refuses to make something of himself just so he wouldn't have to pay as much in child support. Do you think it was fun for me growing up in a home with no father and spending more time in foster care than with my actual mother? Knowing that I had a sister out there that I was likely never to meet? It's not a life I would wish on anyone and I've seen the other side of it when the man is forced to pay child support so he takes his kid anyway. My brother was beaten relentlessly by his father because he was bitter about having to pay child support, but because he already had to pay child support he wasn't going to do it for free. --- Mind post. XBL:Cyanide Sucker PSN:IfGodCouldDie IGN:SuperPattyCakes FC: SW-1615-6159-5504</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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