Current Events > If men have no legal say in if women keeps baby, should they HAVE to pay C.S.?

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Kobe Bryant
05/28/20 6:34:19 PM
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since women are all about pro choices bla blah

If a women is allowed to terminate a baby, shouldn't men at least have the right to abandon a baby?

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Elmer_Glue
05/28/20 6:35:04 PM
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This will be a great topic.
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ZeroX91
05/28/20 6:35:27 PM
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Ask dave chapelle

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DarkChozoGhost
05/28/20 6:35:45 PM
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yes to topic title

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Middle hope
05/28/20 6:36:09 PM
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Gakk86
05/28/20 6:36:46 PM
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Man, these anti-police riots have all the bozos out and shitposting.

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Laserion
05/28/20 6:36:54 PM
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Perhaps you can put the child support part up for adoption. Someone else will adopt the payments.
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Rika_Furude
05/28/20 6:38:34 PM
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Laserion posted...
Perhaps you can put the child support part up for adoption. Someone else will adopt the payments.
They could always just abort the payments

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Kobe Bryant
05/28/20 6:39:02 PM
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Laserion posted...
Perhaps you can put the child support part up for adoption. Someone else will adopt the payments.

Perhaps..

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Kolibri X
05/28/20 6:40:06 PM
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I support child support payments. There needs to be something to keep deadbeat men in check when they're stupid enough to bust raw in a woman and think they can just walk out on the child. Don't want kids or pay child support? Snip it or wrap it up, losers.

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onedarksoul
05/28/20 6:40:13 PM
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I don't think so. There should be an option. But if the man says no, he waives his parental rights.

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onedarksoul
05/28/20 6:41:02 PM
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Kolibri X posted...
There needs to be something to keep deadbeat men in check when they're stupid enough to bust raw in a woman and think they can just walk out on the child.
Yeah because condoms never break. You want to penalize men for having sex in other words. Thats what this boils down to.

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GATTJT
05/28/20 6:41:02 PM
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I feel like men should have that option but they must relinquish all legal claim to the child. If you don't want to pay child support, you can't claim the kid as a dependent, no visitation rights, etc.

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Cleo_II
05/28/20 6:41:22 PM
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Men have the right to wrap it up if they dont want this situation to begin with
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nemu
05/28/20 6:42:39 PM
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Both parents make the choice to perform an action that can lead to a child. They are both responsible for it if it is brought into the world. The necessary imbalance in power over the baby comes down to who has to do the legwork to birth it. Having the option to waive rights is about the best we can allow as a society, but that doesn't stop men from disappearing off the face of the earth.
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Kolibri X
05/28/20 6:43:04 PM
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onedarksoul posted...
Yeah because condoms never break. You want to penalize men for having sex in other words. Thats what this boils down to.

Sex has consequences. Accept them or jerk off.

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onedarksoul
05/28/20 6:44:07 PM
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Another man hater exposed.

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Blue_Inigo
05/28/20 6:45:05 PM
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Yes, they must pay C.S. Lewis. The man wants his damn money

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chrono625
05/28/20 6:46:58 PM
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Id be more ok with having C.S go to an account for the kid when hes an adult than directly to the mom.

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BathroomWater
05/28/20 6:47:45 PM
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Cleo_II posted...
Men have the right to wrap it up if they dont want this situation to begin with

What if they both had chosen not to use a condom? (Not being cheeky, most if not all women Ive been with have preferred it that way. Never got anyone pregnant yet though.)

If a man cant afford child support we should collectively pay it through the state.

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TheOtherMike
05/28/20 6:48:45 PM
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Kobe Bryant posted...
a women

Women is plural.
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Kobe Bryant
05/28/20 6:49:18 PM
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chrono625 posted...
Id be more ok with having C.S go to an account for the kid when hes an adult than directly to the mom.

How about vouchers only good for necessities like healthy foods and a bus pass in time

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Kolibri X
05/28/20 6:51:57 PM
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TheOtherMike posted...
Women is plural.
Why are you misquoting me like a weirdo?

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BathroomWater
05/28/20 6:53:07 PM
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chrono625 posted...
Id be more ok with having C.S go to an account for the kid when hes an adult than directly to the mom.

Leaving the child unsupported for its entire childhood?

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onedarksoul
05/28/20 6:53:33 PM
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...what? account slip up?

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MC_BatCommander
05/28/20 6:53:58 PM
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yes, kid shouldn't suffer because the parent didn't want it

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The Great Muta 22
05/28/20 6:54:19 PM
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Because you can control who you put your dick in

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IfGodCouldDie
05/28/20 6:54:50 PM
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Kolibri X posted...
I support child support payments. There needs to be something to keep deadbeat men in check when they're stupid enough to bust raw in a woman and think they can just walk out on the child. Don't want kids or pay child support? Snip it or wrap it up, losers.
It is not entirely on the man or the woman to make sure proper contraceptives are used. If both parties agree to unprotected sex then both parties are at fault for the pregnancy.

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Questionmarktarius
05/28/20 6:57:50 PM
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So long as visitation is part of the deal, sure.
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SpacialEntropy
05/28/20 6:58:13 PM
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No.

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eston
05/28/20 6:59:09 PM
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TheOtherMike
05/28/20 6:59:54 PM
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Kolibri X posted...
Why are you misquoting me like a weirdo?

What?
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Laserion
05/28/20 7:01:11 PM
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In the United States, a vasectomy costs between $300 to $3000.

Sounds good. And while it's considered permanent in that it doesn't wear off, it is also reversible most of the time.
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Questionmarktarius
05/28/20 7:01:37 PM
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eston posted...
Because it isn't about the dad, it's about the kid
Were that the case, poverty would be grounds for declaring a parent to be unfit.

Instead, we tend to freak out at the very suggestion.
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TheOtherMike
05/28/20 7:03:06 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Were that the case, poverty would be grounds for declaring a parent to be unfit.

Instead, we tend to freak out at the very suggestion.

Because removing a child from poor parents is far worse for them than keeping the family intact. How high are you?
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Questionmarktarius
05/28/20 7:03:49 PM
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TheOtherMike posted...
Because removing a child from poor parents is far worse for them than keeping the family intact.
Why?
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TheOtherMike
05/28/20 7:04:49 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Why?

This is a stupid question.
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Unknown5uspect
05/28/20 7:05:14 PM
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Yes. It ain't fair. Tough titty. Life ain't fair. Take care of your kids.

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chrono625
05/28/20 7:35:10 PM
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BathroomWater posted...
Leaving the child unsupported for its entire childhood?

is the mother incapable of working?

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BathroomWater
05/28/20 7:37:17 PM
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chrono625 posted...
is the mother incapable of working?

Are you incapable of understanding the concept of child support?

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_Rinku_
05/28/20 7:38:09 PM
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A woman's right to choose is about bodily autonomy.

Child support is about the right of a child to be financially supported by both parents.

Not sure how y'all keep conflating the two.
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WaterLink
05/28/20 7:41:43 PM
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GATTJT posted...
I feel like men should have that option but they must relinquish all legal claim to the child. If you don't want to pay child support, you can't claim the kid as a dependent, no visitation rights, etc.

Basically this.
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ohiostate124
05/28/20 7:44:11 PM
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GATTJT posted...
I feel like men should have that option but they must relinquish all legal claim to the child. If you don't want to pay child support, you can't claim the kid as a dependent, no visitation rights, etc.
Seems fair
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VanananaHeyHey
05/28/20 7:44:34 PM
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_Rinku_ posted...
A woman's right to choose is about bodily autonomy.

Child support is about the right of a child to be financially supported by both parents.

Not sure how y'all keep conflating the two.
This entirely.

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chrono625
05/28/20 9:04:11 PM
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BathroomWater posted...
Are you incapable of understanding the concept of child support?

are you being disingenuous on purpose? Thats not what you said, you said to leave the child unsupported through its life.

does the child only get support from the man? No. Why cant the mother get a job to support the child if the man wants zero to do with it?

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TheOtherMike
05/28/20 9:14:34 PM
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chrono625 posted...
Why cant the mother get a job to support the child if the man wants zero to do with it?

Do you think single mothers don't have jobs or something?
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chrono625
05/28/20 9:16:33 PM
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TheOtherMike posted...
Do you think single mothers don't have jobs or something?

thats my fucking point. Thanks for contributing nothing.


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MC_BatCommander
05/28/20 9:18:14 PM
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chrono625 posted...
are you being disingenuous on purpose? Thats not what you said, you said to leave the child unsupported through its life.

does the child only get support from the man? No. Why cant the mother get a job to support the child if the man wants zero to do with it?

Kids are expensive, too expensive for one income usually

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chrono625
05/28/20 9:19:09 PM
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MC_BatCommander posted...
Kids are expensive, too expensive for one income usually

then be smarter, dont have a kid if you A. Dont want them and B. Cant afford them.

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TheOtherMike
05/28/20 9:20:09 PM
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chrono625 posted...
thats my fucking point. Thanks for contributing nothing.

What point? Seriously, you're not making any sense.

The overwhelming majority of the time the mother has a job and supports the child. This has nothing to do with the fact that the father has a responsibility to help support the child as well.
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