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xp1337 posted...

Not really a fan of the meta talk here but I think a defining conversation, and one I should have taken to heart much sooner than I ultimately did, was one I had with red sox probably back in like 2017 or maybe 2018 idk time anymore.

I forget the exact topic of discussion, but IIRC the topic was discussing the Mueller investigation at a time when I believe Sessions was still AG. The topic was discussing an argument being made by the Trump DOJ (but in a casual sense, no one was linking sources or anything because it was obvious) and red sox was pushing back along the lines of, "Come on guys, Republicans are too smart to make such an argument" or something. I posted an article showing that, yes, the Trump DOJ was literally making such a claim as we were all talking about. And within 10 minutes red sox had switched sides entirely and was defending the Trump DOJ's claim. When I called him out on this by quoting the total 180 he made inside of 15 minutes his response was, "15 minutes ago I didn't know that [this was the Republican argument]!"

I think it kinda encapsulates perfectly why the topic generally feels the way it does.

If you really, really want to try and find this discussion, I don't know how these archives are structured but IIRC the post I made when quoting red sox's flip simply said "The prosecution rests." so maybe you can Control+F that but if you have to go topic-by-topic then it probably isn't worth it because I truly don't remember the approximate time of all this beyond the Mueller investigation definitely being an ongoing thing at the time.

How many times have people jumped onto redsox for jumping to conclusions while doing the exact same like 10 posts later?

How many times do people call our redsox or myself or so on for doing something while others "on their side" do the same and go unscathed or even agreed with?

I think, it is easy to sit here and play these bad faith and bad people games. This is a discussion topic. You should be able to listen to views from the opposite sides and just present sides without an agreement having to be come to, even if you view it ridiculous. The problem is that a select few decided to make this a "we are better than others" topic and spend like half their posts just discussing how they are better than others and others aren't as good as them for not recognizing what they should be doing like them. That is has become acceptable in here is actually kind of weird. I am at least instilled with some hope because at least a few of you have spoken out against that lately, but my point is... its hard to call out red sox or something repeatedly while others do the same just as much and go without a whisper.

How many times have I pointed out Kamikaze's issue with the lynchings claim? Tony even tried to defend what Kamikaze said inaccurately. I proved that wrong with direct quotes. Tony went quiet. Kamikaze acts like they have me on ignore (maybe does here and there) while responding directly to me here and there to not acknowledge it.

I mean, we can do this all day. There is very few bulletproof people in here regarding their arguings tbqh.


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