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Topic	Socialism has failed everywhere it has been tried.
meingott 04/12/17 8:10:02 PM #51:	Tmaster148 posted... meingott posted... Tmaster148 posted... meingott posted... twitterfriends posted... Even if you don't support socialism you still have to acknowledge taxes in the United States are extremely low, we're the only first world nation without a Universal Healthcare System. taxes in america are not extremely low. federal + state + property + sales taxes = damn near 50% gone. It's really that the US has a high income tax and a low sales tax compared to other countries. So while in other countries people are paying less in income taxes, they are generally paying more in sale taxes. that doesnt change that it's hilariously wrong to say that america has "extremely low" taxes That is true tho. A US citizen pays less in taxes compared to other countries. http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/04/11/among-developed-nations-americans-tax-bills-are-below-average/ "For instance, the OECD data don’t include taxes paid at the state, provincial or local level (such as sales and property taxes in the U.S.), nor do they include other national taxes, such as gasoline and cigarette taxes in the U.S. or value-added taxes in dozens of other countries. And they include only the individual portion of social-insurance taxes, not anything paid by employers. (In the U.S., for instance, employers and workers both pay Social Security and Medicare taxes.)" so in other words it is a useless source --- These people are literally ignorant of the law. It's astounding. As the situation escalates I will come out victorious. - DawkinsNumber4 <cite>meingott posted [p:877082555] in Socialism ... [t:75226583]...</cite> <quote><cite>Tmaster148 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>meingott posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Tmaster148 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>meingott posted...</cite> <quote><cite>twitterfriends posted...</cite> <quote>Even if you don't support socialism you still have to acknowledge taxes in the United States are extremely low, we're the only first world nation without a Universal Healthcare System.</quote> taxes in america are not extremely low. federal + state + property + sales taxes = damn near 50% gone.</quote> It's really that the US has a high income tax and a low sales tax compared to other countries. So while in other countries people are paying less in income taxes, they are generally paying more in sale taxes.</quote> that doesnt change that it's hilariously wrong to say that america has "extremely low" taxes</quote> That is true tho. A US citizen pays less in taxes compared to other countries. http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/04/11/among-developed-nations-americans-tax-bills-are-below-average/</quote> "For instance, the OECD data don’t include taxes paid at the state, provincial or local level (such as sales and property taxes in the U.S.), nor do they include other national taxes, such as gasoline and cigarette taxes in the U.S. or value-added taxes in dozens of other countries. And they include only the individual portion of social-insurance taxes, not anything paid by employers. (In the U.S., for instance, employers and workers both pay Social Security and Medicare taxes.)" so in other words it is a useless source --- These people are literally ignorant of the law. It's astounding. As the situation escalates I will come out victorious. - DawkinsNumber4</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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