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Godnorgosh posted...

I'd put 4 above Brawl, but wow, someone else here actually appreciates 64 for what it is. Do you play competitively?

I never play any games competitively, but I still play the game and it holds up so well for a game that was basically made in the basement of Hal. The thing I love about it is everything is so perfectly honed. Nothing in the game feels tacked on or padded out, and the engine is very slick. And though there are not that many characters, all of them actually kind of compete rather well. There's no massive gulfs that would come to determine later games.

I don't like either 4 or Brawl, but I put Brawl higher because at least it TRIED to do something new. Subspace Emissary turned out to be hot Japanese crap, but it wasn't a bad idea to have this massive single player mode as the core feature of the game. And trying to minimize the competitive aspects, while totally failing, was maybe something that needed to be tried.

The worst thing about 4 is it largely maintains the design ideas that were most of what made Brawl such a shit show. It removed tripping, but really tripping was just the most easily identifiable failed gameplay mechanic, and other things about it were far worse. 4 is worse because it gives you the realization that nothing was learned at all from the mistakes of Brawl.