if they prove it. going to be hilarious to see how vegans react, will they poorly try to defend it, will they give up, or will they start eating rocks?
Its not like moral veganism really has a foot to stand on. Animals will die in the production of food, no matter what youre making. Its going to happen.
I have no qualms with a person being vegan, but moral veganism really is kind of short sighted.
Fewer die when you don't eat them or the things they produce. Animals will die for a number of reasons all the time. But to suggest that not eating them (or their milk or eggs or whatever) is on the same level as raising them for slaughter and equivalent in the amount of deaths or suffering is pure nonsense.
Dont read between the lines. I neither implied nor said such a thing.
I will modify my statement: A lot of moral vegans think theyre saving all animals and do not count among those that die in the production of their food.
Im all for less cruelty for livestock and better conditions all around.
You said moral veganism doesn't have a foot to stand on and I disagree. The world will never be free of suffering or exploitation, but people doing what they can to minimize that are at least doing something that results in less net suffering, exploitation, and cruelty.
Better that than saying that's just how it is and doing nothing to work towards a different outcome. ---