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Firstly, do you have any specific examples of me railing against said cynicism? Otherwise it's just a lazy parroting of Jakyl's point. I feel like he was talking about my tendency to defend the WWE in this topic from the forced, desperate negativity of, say, PrivateBiscuit, but I fully turned on WWE as a company almost a year ago. That's not hypocrisy, that's a change in mindset.

StealThisSheen posted...

Like, you think Nikki is overrated. That's fine.

But to go "I'm so glad Brie botched because now people are hating on Brie AND Nikki and Nikki deserves it because they're twins and I don't like her so since I don't like her I'm all for unfair criticism"

is really, really stupid and not deserving of actual response. And, as Jakyl pointed out, it's typically the type of thing you go against in other cases, so it's pretty hypocritical.

You admit that to use Brie botching as an excuse to hate on Nikki just because they're twins is irrational. Yet, for some reason, you don't think it's dumb or irrational to cheer it on.

And this is why I wanted more, because I felt stuff had been misinterpreted, and I was right. Maybe that's on me for not effectively clarifying, or maybe it's on you for jumping to conclusions. Or deliberately doing so to justify the aforementioned shitposts.

So let's clear up the these low, possibly deliberate misinterpretations right now.

First: I never claimed I was happy Brie legitimately KO'd someone. I said the upside of Brie's recent mistakes is that they might bring their twin incompetence back into general discussion. That isn't the same as being glad she gave someone a concussion. Think you need to take that one back.

Second: I never said I'm using Brie's botches to hate on Nikki. I hate on Nikki regardless. I'm annoyed by the shift in discourse towards the idea that Nikki is good, so if this is a catalyst to shift discussion back towards a more anti-Bella vibe, then let's do it.

I see it as more of a starting point, a catalyst, like I said. Because the inevitable counter to Nikki hate here would be "you shouldn't blame Nikki for Brie's botches" (as immediately happened in this topic), you then see people get into more specific discussions about Nikki's ability beyond her sister's botches. People who were previously ambivalent about the subject are now bedded in to the discussion, making anti-Bella points, influencing people and shifting the discourse, where previously they wouldn't be (or would be doing so far less). That "irrational" catalyst morphs into rational discussion.

I'm guilty of allowing the discourse to shift as well. I never really cared enough to dispute Lopen's assertions that Nikki was good; I read them and scoffed or shook my head and moved on. You sometimes need a catalyst to get people into a discussion like that, even if the catalyst is a bit nonsensical or irrational. I want this to be that catalyst. Let's use these incidents as a springboard to get talking about how bad the Bellas, both Bellas, truly are, and how bad it truly is that they are once again being heavily pushed and promoted.
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