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OhhhJa posted...

You said grenade attacks plummeted to historic lows in 2017. That is factually incorrect my man no matter how you try to spin it

Of course it's not factually incorrect, because the way I phrased it is entirely subjective. I didn't say they were at historic lows like you're claiming, I said they were "near" historic lows, and "near" can mean pretty much anything. If the lowest number of shootings on record is 35000 a year and one year they dropped to 35016, that's pretty near historic lows - just 16 off the record.

Which, coincidentally, is exactly how far off of the historic lows 2017 was for grenade attacks in Sweden.

As you're hopefully starting to learn, when you put your own interpretive words around statistics - like, say, "a pretty huge increase" - you can basically spin the narrative to be whatever you want, no matter if it's completely detached from reality.

Speaking of which...

OhhhJa posted...

No but I would consider going from almost none to 24 to be a pretty huge increase

See, I'd consider that a pretty huge mischaractierization. Subjectivity is wonderful, isn't it.

Moreover, I see you haven't yet bothered to read up on sample size. As I've been harping on for a while, playing this up like it's this enormous, horrifying trend is ignoring the fact that while the statistical increase might be huge (an 800% jump, holy shit!!!1!1) that means relatively little when you're dealing with tiny numbers. And talking about low-double digit attacks out of a population of 10 millions is a laughably small sample size.

To put it another way, I'm a business owner and I'm also the company's only employee. My business is a side-gig and it pulls in roughly $10k a year for me - it won't pay my mortgage, but it does give me some extra spending cash. If, next year, I hired 25 more staff and pushed my business income up to $1.01mil a year, I'd have a 2500% increase in personnel, and an eye-popping 10,000% increase in revenue. Pretty amazing numbers, and certainly way better than any blue-chip stock you're ever likely to see. Of course, that sort of growth is distorted by the fact that my starting point was miniscule, thus making the growth completely unsustainable, so if I tried to claim that I was a business genius on par with Bill Gates, I'd get laughed out of whatever investment meeting I was trying my pitch at.

OhhhJa posted...

But yeah I guess it depends on whether or not you believe grenade attacks are a big deal

Lemme flip this back on you - why do you think they're a big deal? Bigger than, say, America's issue with guns, which is causing more deaths in a day than Sweden is dealing with in a year?

Grenades are a violent, shitty way to die, no arguments there... but so are guns, and I don't see you shrieking in terror about those, despite the fact that they're a much larger threat.
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