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Topic	Do you guys think using "implications" to get sex is rape?
Lirishae 07/26/19 9:03:36 PM #176:	Kyuubi4269 posted... Your interpretation came from thinking poorly of him, and if you had an unbiased view of him, you would have assumed he was responding to the most recent thing, and he was. Don't try to flip this, you done wrong. I'm sorry, but you're being a total hypocrite. If you had an unbiased view of me, you wouldn't be assuming the worst of me. I never said a word impugning his character at any point. And I love how you're singling me out while not saying a single word to the other person who came to the exact same conclusion. You've spent multiple posts castigating me, and only me, for an honest misunderstanding of a vaguely worded post. By your very own standards, you're the one that's done wrong here. Kyuubi4269 posted... Following English common law, there's the lovely prerequisite that it's not rape if the "rapist" reasonably believed consent was given. If she says yes to sex and acts without any threat being used (which he knows he's not doing), he reasonably believed it was consensual so you can't charge. If you do not want sex then you say you do not want sex; to agree to something you don't want is insane and puts the blame squarely on you. Yeah, I'm sure you'd say the same thing about giving up your wallet to a swarthy guy accosting you in a back alley. Blaming the woman for being afraid to say no when it's the man who purposely created that situation is ridiculous. In the scenario being discussed, the man isn't some dude who innocently believes everything was on the up and up. He knows exactly what he's doing: using alcohol (the number one date rape drug) and the implied threat of physical harm to coerce a woman to have sex with him. And you're blaming her for misunderstanding, not the man who by his own admission deliberately created the misunderstanding. English common law is not state law, either. Laws vary from state to state, but many have laws about implied threats, coerced consent, and alcohol rendering someone unable to give consent. It is beyond me why you're defending this. --- "Little scratches on people's hearts will be gone if they pat them from behind, but the humans don't know that." -Li'l Cactus 3DS FC: 0619-3174-3155 <cite>Lirishae posted [p:925233449] in Do you guy... [t:77871100]...</cite> <quote>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote>Your interpretation came from thinking poorly of him, and if you had an unbiased view of him, you would have assumed he was responding to the most recent thing, and he was. Don't try to flip this, you done wrong.</quote> I'm sorry, but you're being a total hypocrite. If you had an unbiased view of me, you wouldn't be assuming the worst of me. I never said a word impugning his character at any point. And I love how you're singling me out while not saying a single word to the other person who came to the exact same conclusion. You've spent multiple posts castigating me, and only me, for an honest misunderstanding of a vaguely worded post. By your very own standards, you're the one that's done wrong here. Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote>Following English common law, there's the lovely prerequisite that it's not rape if the "rapist" reasonably believed consent was given. If she says yes to sex and acts without any threat being used (which he knows he's not doing), he reasonably believed it was consensual so you can't charge. If you do not want sex then you say you do not want sex; to agree to something you don't want is insane and puts the blame squarely on you.</quote> Yeah, I'm sure you'd say the same thing about giving up your wallet to a swarthy guy accosting you in a back alley. Blaming the woman for being afraid to say no when it's the man who purposely created that situation is ridiculous. In the scenario being discussed, the man isn't some dude who innocently believes everything was on the up and up. He knows exactly what he's doing: using alcohol (the number one date rape drug) and the implied threat of physical harm to coerce a woman to have sex with him. And you're blaming her for misunderstanding, not the man who by his own admission deliberately created the misunderstanding. English common law is not state law, either. Laws vary from state to state, but many have laws about implied threats, coerced consent, and alcohol rendering someone unable to give consent. It is beyond me why you're defending this. --- "Little scratches on people's hearts will be gone if they pat them from behind, but the humans don't know that." -Li'l Cactus 3DS FC: 0619-3174-3155</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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