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pinky0926 posted...

@wittymillennial , do you not see the irony in starting an argument with, "the science isn't conclusive", and ending with "but go look at some vegan forums, people have health problems"?

That's a pretty tenuous source of information at best.

Not to mention implying rearing cows doesn't also include any of the same environmental impacts of growing plants. What do the cows eat?

Or to suggest they're remotely the same quantitively...

it's a place to start looking at any rate. and when the forums are all flooded with the same complaints, you can start to form a scientific argument for something. You can look else where too, like some countries have banned vegan diets for children because vegan children were coming to doctors extremely deficient in key nutrients. So it's not like you can't find the data, I just pointed you in a direction where you can start looking. I'm not doing your homework for you.

Krojen posted...

My vegan diet of beans and frozen bulk is pennies a day and I powerlift.

why do I doubt you power lift on frozen bulk and beans? I call BS

pinky0926 posted...

This is a pretty exclusive case man. He's right. Fish and steak is expensive.

shop sales, load up for a couple of weeks, wait for the next sale. But yes if you buy ribeye when it's not on sale you're going to pay a lot.

I also argue fruits and vegetables are expensive as fuck. Plus you have to cut that stuff up and prepare it, buy seasoning and sauces. Bread also isn't cheap, unless you want whatever passes for wal mart cheapo bread(i'm not convinced it's real bread, at my stomach hates me when I've had it). And some vegan foods aren't exactly cheap. I do want to reemphasize the amount of time vegans spend prepping food is is worth factoring in here. I don't have a hard number on it, but it's a lot more than just throwing some meat on the stove as meat by itself is quite tasty, often needing only just salt, the same is never true for a vegan meal.

Now yes, you can go cheapo vegan, peanut butter and jelly sandwiches are cheap as fuck, but that's not healthy to eat just that.

Meanhile I can throw a steak or liver or something on, with minimal prep, and all it really needs is salt. Of course you could go the cheap meat route and get ground beef, 3 lbs for under 10 bucks can be a staple in 3 meals or more easily.

Just saying, buying meat isn't as expensive as people are claiming.