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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 289: You Down to Invoke P? Yeah You Know Me!
Wanglicious
04/04/20 1:41:56 AM
#236:


mm... i got major questions on that study and where it ends. personally i like this one as it goes really in depth:
https://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2015/06/11/chapter-7-the-many-dimensions-of-hispanic-racial-identity/

also it's pew, fairly reliable with specific data you can break down and examine.

that one goes 67% consider hispanic to be at the level of race as a factor.
once hispanic and white are options for race, the number identifying as white hispanic goes UP to 79%. this is at direct odds with the one in the NPR article and makes a lot more sense: given the choice of multiple options, it makes sense the number would be about the same or go up since it's including a wider pool. the NPR one... somehow dropped 50-60% from data and various amounts of research on the subject, which should be a red flag that something's very fishy with that data. i'd sooner guess somebody planted the seeds for the answers they wanted.

back to the collection of studies: it gets really in depth with specifics, at which point you start seeing "white" leave its majority position to plurality with a couple instances of becoming a strong second. some of the details i referenced earlier can be found in this collection of studies.

...however.
do note one particular trend: the rate of perception. it's weird in that the people with 2+ census races will find that they pass as "white" more so than "hispanic." the explanation for that is straightforward enough: a significant chunk of "hispanic" flipped to "mixed" and not enough "white" dropped. thusly, the order became white > hispanic > mixed (30% > 24% > 17%). those who are just 1 census race were majority "hispanic" but "white" was only a little behind it, comparatively speaking (48% to 38%).

i bring that up because of this later study:
https://www.pewresearch.org/hispanic/2017/12/20/hispanic-identity-fades-across-generations-as-immigrant-connections-fall-away/

which shows that among 4th generation hispanics, only 50/50 self identify with it. as in, completely, whether that's ethnicity or race (a more in depth study would be appreciated). perception plays a major role in this, as does culture though i don't think anyone's gonna question that by 4th generation a significant amount is lost. this is important because going forward, this means that 67% which considers hispanic to be at the level of a race is going to plummet and you're gonna be left with the identifier that was there in the first place: white.

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