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Topic	Dad of 5 says he should have gotten the DAMN VACCINE just before he DIED!!!
adjl 08/01/21 11:02:55 PM #36:	Clench281 posted... It's very odd to say that heat stroke causes hypovolemia. Hypovolemia is often actually a significant a contributing factor when heat exhaustion is developing towards heat stroke, which is the opposite causality. Excess sweating and inadequate fluid/electrolyte replacement, when combined with vasodilation in effort to keep cool, result in inability to regulate blood volume. Aldosterone secretion would typically result in retention of sodium and water, increasing blood volume, maintaining healthy blood pressure within the dilated blood vessels. But the salt and water aren't available, blood volume can't be increased, and blood pressure drops low enough to where you are unable to pump blood to the body (hypovolemic shock that isn't due to hemorrhage). I don't know why you linked to that abstract. The abstract does not say that hypovolemia is a result of heat shock. As explained above, it's a contributing factor that can result in heat shock. Which is why not everyone with elevated unregulated body temperature will also have hypovolemia: because it can happen without dehydration. For example, when the wet bulb temperature is above 35 C the human body is unable to lower body temperature. If you are replacing fluid and electrolyte you will lead to heat-induced death without hypovolemia. Side note, aside from the abstract (which didn't even support your claim), everything else associated with the citation is in Hebrew so i doubt your corroborating evidence is there. Thank you everyone for coming to my Ted Talk. Far as I can tell, the link is simpler than that: If your lungs are borked, your O2 sats start looking a lot worse. What he's trying to suggest is that the guy was already in critical stages of respiratory failure because the heat stroke had killed his lungs, and that's why his O2 saturation was low. That's not entirely unreasonable, except for the part where there's no actual reason to believe that over trusting the medical professionals that blamed his Covid infection for it (to say nothing of subsequent research that turned up no actual evidence of heat stroke to begin with). That, or he believes that "hypovolemia" means "low blood oxygen" and not "low blood volume," which also wouldn't surprise me. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. <cite>adjl posted [p:956687831] in Dad of 5 s... [t:79591433]...</cite> <quote>Clench281 posted... </cite> <quote>It's very odd to say that heat stroke causes hypovolemia. Hypovolemia is often actually a significant a contributing factor when heat exhaustion is developing towards heat stroke, which is the opposite causality. Excess sweating and inadequate fluid/electrolyte replacement, when combined with vasodilation in effort to keep cool, result in inability to regulate blood volume. Aldosterone secretion would typically result in retention of sodium and water, increasing blood volume, maintaining healthy blood pressure within the dilated blood vessels. But the salt and water aren't available, blood volume can't be increased, and blood pressure drops low enough to where you are unable to pump blood to the body (hypovolemic shock that isn't due to hemorrhage). I don't know why you linked to that abstract. The abstract does not say that hypovolemia is a result of heat shock. As explained above, it's a contributing factor that can result in heat shock. Which is why not everyone with elevated unregulated body temperature will also have hypovolemia: because it can happen without dehydration. For example, when the wet bulb temperature is above 35 C the human body is unable to lower body temperature. If you are replacing fluid and electrolyte you will lead to heat-induced death without hypovolemia. Side note, aside from the abstract (which didn't even support your claim), everything else associated with the citation is in Hebrew so i doubt your corroborating evidence is there. Thank you everyone for coming to my Ted Talk.</quote> Far as I can tell, the link is simpler than that: If your lungs are borked, your O2 sats start looking a lot worse. What he's trying to suggest is that the guy was already in critical stages of respiratory failure because the heat stroke had killed his lungs, and that's why his O2 saturation was low. That's not entirely unreasonable, except for the part where there's no actual reason to believe that over trusting the medical professionals that blamed his Covid infection for it (to say nothing of subsequent research that turned up no actual evidence of heat stroke to begin with). That, or he believes that "hypovolemia" means "low blood oxygen" and not "low blood volume," which also wouldn't surprise me. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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