Poll of the Day > Dad of 5 says he should have gotten the DAMN VACCINE just before he DIED!!!

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39 y/o Michael Freedy, a Father of Five wrote a heartbreaking text to his fiancee that he should have gotten the damn vaccine before he DIED from COVID-19!!

He passed away in hospital on Thursday in Las Vegas, less than 2 weeks after contracting the virus when he and his family went on VACATION

His fiancee, Jessica DuPreeze took a beach vacation to California with their 5 kids aged 17 months to 17 and after returning, Freedy suddenly fell ill and went to hospital where he was suffering a severe sunstroke

Doctors found his blood oxgyem levels were critically low and tested him for Covid which turned positive

His breathing deteriorated and he texted her "I should have gotten the damn faccine." and was later that DAY he passed away while on a ventilator

DuPreeze said in tears "We wanted to wait just one year from the release of the vaccine to see what effects people had, but there were was never any intention to not get it. We were just afraid of the side effects but we never in a million years thought this would happen"

She has now had her first shot and will always regret not making him get immunized

She said "He was only 39. Our babies now don't have a dad. You can't say i am young and it won't affect me because it will"

She said she wanted to get their family out of Vegas because of a HEAT WARNING and went to the beach as they shared a photo of them there.

She updated Mike's condition on her FB when he was being treated as she had hope he would pull through but his condition kept going down as she wrotes she lost the love of her life and doesn't know what to do as he was their bread winner..

It comes just as America's vaccination rate is falling and conservatives and anti-vaxxers make up the majority of cases because of the ravaging Delta variant.

Less than half of Americans are fully vaccinated with 164 million people or 49.4$ have received a shot.

The US is averaging 700,000 shots per day, far below the 4 million shots a day at the beginning of April.

But even with this it is not incentivizing unvaccinated americans to get the shot as a whopping 95,000 new cases have now been reported daily with the fall coming and more cases are to follow and a possible other variant arising

Do you think it's hopeless for the other half of America to get the shot at this point?

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"We never in a million years thought we would be victims of a 20 month long global pandemic"

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It's sad that there's only going to be more fully preventable stories like this.

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Apparently the vaccine might not have helped him

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My man should have gotten a pack of condoms

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So he died of a heat stroke and they're calling it covid and trying to humiliate the family. Nice

Full Throttle posted...

Doctors found his blood oxygen levels were critically low and tested him for Covid which turned positive

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The only sad part of this story is that now the taxpayers are going to foot the bill for raising their kids.

OhhhJa posted...

So he died of a heat stroke and they're calling it covid and trying to humiliate the family. Nice

Full Throttle posted...

Freedy suddenly fell ill and went to hospital where he was suffering a severe sunstroke

Doctors found his blood oxgyem levels were critically low and tested him for Covid which turned positive

His breathing deteriorated and he texted her "I should have gotten the damn faccine." and was later that DAY he passed away while on a ventilator

Bolded to help your reading comprehension. He tested positive for covid, and it was the breathing problems and lack of oxygen that killed him. That's not symptoms of sunstroke.

You guys... lol. It actually frequently is a symptom

One of the last things they do before they're intubated is beg me for the vaccine. I hold their hand and tell them that I'm sorry, but it's too late," Brytney Cobia, a hospitalist at Grandview Medical Center in Birmingham, wrote on Facebook this week.

A few days later when I call time of death, I hug their family members and I tell them the best way to honor their loved one is to go get vaccinated and encourage everyone they know to do the same, Cobia added.

https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/564114-im-sorry-but-its-too-late-doctor-says-hospitalized-covid-19-patients-asking

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OhhhJa posted...

So he died of a heat stroke and they're calling it covid and trying to humiliate the family. Nice

Why are you the way you are?

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OhhhJa posted...

So he died of a heat stroke and they're calling it covid and trying to humiliate the family. Nice

What's your medical background? Hell, what's your reading background, kindergarten?

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OhhhJa is not a real person and should not be treated as such.

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I read it. Look it up dummies. Heat strokes can effect your blood oxygen level. Anyone with half a brain could figure that out though. It's common sense

Bunch of galaxy brains in here that can't use critical thinking. All your knowledge comes from news articles lol

adjl posted...

Why are you the way you are?

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Ahh poor guys can't dispute what I'm saying so you have to resort to being condescending

To dispute what you're saying would the the rough equivalent of trying to give somebody math advice who accidentally wrote the first chapter of Harry Potter when they were trying to do long division. You're just so utterly and incomprehensibly wrong that nobody has any idea where to even start correcting you. Even more so where being so wrong seems to be a deliberate choice that you've explicitly expressed a desire to keep making because you think that somehow makes you smarter than everyone else.

Tell you what: You find me a 2-3 examples of credible medical resources recommending ventilators for treating heat stroke, and maybe I'll humour the possibility that you have a point instead of just blindly grasping at any remotely relevant straw you can find to support your approach of "is there anything in this article that can support my baseless a priori conclusion that he didn't actually die of Covid?".

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https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/10959266/

Heat stroke often causes hypovolemia. I really shouldn't have to find this info for you. It's common sense that heat stroke leads to organ failure. For someone pretending to be smarter than everyone else, you sure seem to be kind of a

OhhhJa posted...

Heat stroke often causes hypovolemia. I really shouldn't have to find this info for you. It's common sense that heat stroke leads to organ failure.

Duh. That is indeed common knowledge. Why, though, do you believe that nobody involved in this process is capable of telling the difference between respiratory failure induced by heat stroke and that caused by Covid?

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Just looking at the guy, he seems like he'd be in several high-risk brackets so you'd assume he'd want to do whatever he could to be protected, including not taking fucking vacations during a pandemic.

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adjl posted...

Duh. That is indeed common knowledge. Why, though, do you believe that nobody involved in this process is capable of telling the difference between respiratory failure induced by heat stroke and that caused by Covid?

Oh man, how the goalposts keep shifting

He should've lost some damn weight.

OhhhJa posted...

Oh man, how the goalposts keep shifting

Yeah, I'll admit I approached that with the wrong strategy. That was a mistake. Time for a new one:

https://people.com/health/father-of-5-dies-of-covid-i-should-have-gotten-the-vaccine/

Freedy initially mistook his COVID-19 case for sun poisoning, but tested positive for the virus after experiencing chills, lack of appetite and trouble sleeping. After being sent home from the hospital after his diagnosis, Freedy's condition sharply declined.
In a GoFundMe account created for her late fianc, DuPreez said Freedy was "miserable" after testing positive, was "beside himself" in pain and feeling "scared." When Freedy experienced dizziness and trouble breathing, she brought him back to the hospital, where doctors found pneumonia in his lungs and placed Freedy on oxygen.

https://ktla.com/news/nationworld/i-should-have-gotten-the-damn-vaccine-las-vegas-father-of-5-dies-after-contracting-covid-19-in-socal/

When they returned home after spending a couple days in the Southern California city, Freedy developed a painful skin rash, according to DuPreez. Based on his symptoms he was getting chills and couldnt sleep, eat or get comfortable they thought it was a case of sun poisoning.
Freedy went to a hospital where he tested positive for the coronavirus. He was sent home to isolate, DuPreez recounted on a GoFundMe account.
Later, she wrote, Freedy woke her up in the middle of the night, complaining that he couldnt breathe and felt dizzy. They went to the hospital and he was admitted.
Scans showed that Freedy had developed pneumonia in both lungs and he was placed on two oxygen machines.

https://www.businessinsider.com/las-vegas-father-dies-from-covid-wishes-got-vaccine-2021-7

Freedy began feeling unwell following a trip to the beach; they thought he had come down with sun poisoning. After testing positive for COVID-19, he was admitted to the ICU with double pneumonia and placed on a ventilator.

https://www.nydailynews.com/coronavirus/ny-covid-vaccine-dad-dies-20210731-f2jblbmtwzfhjoplxxzf6rmgje-story.html

He was getting chills, couldnt eat, couldnt get comfortable, couldnt sleep, du Preez told KLAS. All symptoms of sun poisoning.
Eventually, Freedy tested positive for COVID-19 and developed difficulty breathing with pneumonia in both lungs, du Preez said. His family hoped for the best, but in the end he did not survive the virus.

I'll let you google "Freedy Covid" to find any of the remaining dozens of news outlets reporting on this story if you want to further corroborate what these are saying, but let's look at the common elements:

• "Sun poisoning" (which is a series of symptoms associated with bad sunburns), no mention of actual sun stroke/heat stroke. It would appear that was a duckbear-ism
• Pneumonia, which is distinct from the pulmonary edema seen in lung failure due to heat stroke
• Covid-19 identified as the cause of death in every instance, which has presumably come from medical professionals and not the media
• Symptoms emerged a couple days after heat exposure and worsened from there, which is entirely the opposite of how heat stroke typically manifests (that is, symptoms arise while still being exposed to heat, then improve gradually once the patient is cooled down and kept cool)

And I'm sure you can find a few more commonalities between them if you look, all leading to one pretty solid conclusion: There is no reason to believe that his death was not due to Covid. This leads back to my initial question:

Why are you the way that you are?

You entered this topic pre-assured (for no reason, I might add) of the conclusion that he did not die of Covid, looking for any possible other explanation to cite to prove that belief. When you found one, you presented that not as a possible alternative, but as the real truth "they" were trying to conceal by humiliating this family, a position which you doubled down on when challenged by calling everyone that disagreed with you idiots. Why do you do this? Why do you assume that everyone is lying to you unless they agree with what you've already decided must be true? Why are you so attached to this narrative that Covid death counts are being artificially inflated that you look for contrived explanations that you can use to deflate those counts everywhere you go? Why are you the way that you are?

As an aside: Why would you ever suggest that a confirmed diagnosis of a disease that pretty routinely causes high fevers in its victims was irrelevant to somebody dying of heat stroke? Even without having the actual facts of the case (that is, that he didn't have heat stroke but clearly did die of Covid-related pneumonia), that's a thoroughly ridiculous thing to suggest.

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Fuck all the people in this topic making fun of the guy.
with all the disinformation going around and rare reactions the layman/laywoman will obviously be skeptical/scared of the vaccine. It does not make them any less of a human being.

I know a lot of blacks for instance are weary of government shots after our countries horrible history of sterilizing and mistreating blacks in the name of science.

be compassionate to all and understanding of peoples circumstances please

DDirtyDastard posted...

He should've lost some damn weight.

some people struggle with weight be it through genetics, forced sedentary lifestyle and long grueling work hours.

if you work all day behind a desk do you really want to come home and rune a mile? If we had better working conditions and not a privatized healthcare system America would be healthy.

go ahead and blame the victim though

Sycophant posted...

with all the disinformation going around and rare reactions the layman/laywoman will obviously be skeptical/scared of the vaccine.

No, they won't
Your gimmick is breaking

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Sycophant posted...

some people struggle with weight be it through genetics, forced sedentary lifestyle and long grueling work hours.

if you work all day behind a desk do you really want to come home and rune a mile? If we had better working conditions and not a privatized healthcare system America would be healthy.

go ahead and blame the victim though

Of all the things in a persons life the 1 thing they have 100% control over is their diet and weight and no exercise is required at any age.

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Sycophant posted...

some people struggle with weight be it through genetics, forced sedentary lifestyle and long grueling work hours.

if you work all day behind a desk do you really want to come home and rune a mile? If we had better working conditions and not a privatized healthcare system America would be healthy.

go ahead and blame the victim though

Excess weight is primarily a result of poor dietary choices and eating habits resulting from lack of knowledge or lack of discipline. If you're sedentary, you need to eat fewer calories. I could also extol the benefits of intermittent fasting but I've done that enough lately.

Running is awful and completely unnecessary for weight loss. A walking routine is easier to get into, easier to adhere to, and easier on the body.

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Full Throttle posted...

She said she wanted to get their family out of Vegas because of a HEAT WARNING and went to the beach

That seems like a good idea.

OhhhJa posted...

Bunch of galaxy brains in here that can't use critical thinking. All your knowledge comes from news articles lol

You don't die of heatstroke when you get medical attention right away.
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Revelation34 posted...

You don't die of heatstroke when you get medical attention right away.

Depends how advanced it is. Even then (from OhhJa's source, actually), suffering heat stroke messes up the body's thermoregulative capabilities to such an extent that if you don't keep their temperature externally controlled for a few days after they seemingly get better, they can end up hyperthermic again and still die. Getting immediate medical attention dramatically improves the prognosis, but it's not a guarantee.

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this topic just kinda proves that ohja didn't get the vaccine lmao

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https://thebeaverton.com/2021/07/meet-the-unvaccinated-this-33-year-old-mom-is-a-real-fucking-idiot/

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OhhhJa posted...

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/10959266/

Heat stroke often causes hypovolemia. I really shouldn't have to find this info for you. It's common sense that heat stroke leads to organ failure. For someone pretending to be smarter than everyone else, you sure seem to be kind of a

It's very odd to say that heat stroke causes hypovolemia. Hypovolemia is often actually a significant a contributing factor when heat exhaustion is developing towards heat stroke, which is the opposite causality.

Excess sweating and inadequate fluid/electrolyte replacement, when combined with vasodilation in effort to keep cool, result in inability to regulate blood volume. Aldosterone secretion would typically result in retention of sodium and water, increasing blood volume, maintaining healthy blood pressure within the dilated blood vessels. But the salt and water aren't available, blood volume can't be increased, and blood pressure drops low enough to where you are unable to pump blood to the body (hypovolemic shock that isn't due to hemorrhage).

I don't know why you linked to that abstract. The abstract does not say that hypovolemia is a result of heat shock. As explained above, it's a contributing factor that can result in heat shock. Which is why not everyone with elevated unregulated body temperature will also have hypovolemia: because it can happen without dehydration. For example, when the wet bulb temperature is above 35 C the human body is unable to lower body temperature. If you are replacing fluid and electrolyte you will lead to heat-induced death without hypovolemia.

Side note, aside from the abstract (which didn't even support your claim), everything else associated with the citation is in Hebrew so i doubt your corroborating evidence is there.

Thank you everyone for coming to my Ted Talk.

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Clench281 posted...

It's very odd to say that heat stroke causes hypovolemia. Hypovolemia is often actually a significant a contributing factor when heat exhaustion is developing towards heat stroke, which is the opposite causality.

Excess sweating and inadequate fluid/electrolyte replacement, when combined with vasodilation in effort to keep cool, result in inability to regulate blood volume. Aldosterone secretion would typically result in retention of sodium and water, increasing blood volume, maintaining healthy blood pressure within the dilated blood vessels. But the salt and water aren't available, blood volume can't be increased, and blood pressure drops low enough to where you are unable to pump blood to the body (hypovolemic shock that isn't due to hemorrhage).

I don't know why you linked to that abstract. The abstract does not say that hypovolemia is a result of heat shock. As explained above, it's a contributing factor that can result in heat shock. Which is why not everyone with elevated unregulated body temperature will also have hypovolemia: because it can happen without dehydration. For example, when the wet bulb temperature is above 35 C the human body is unable to lower body temperature. If you are replacing fluid and electrolyte you will lead to heat-induced death without hypovolemia.

Side note, aside from the abstract (which didn't even support your claim), everything else associated with the citation is in Hebrew so i doubt your corroborating evidence is there.

Thank you everyone for coming to my Ted Talk.

Far as I can tell, the link is simpler than that: If your lungs are borked, your O2 sats start looking a lot worse. What he's trying to suggest is that the guy was already in critical stages of respiratory failure because the heat stroke had killed his lungs, and that's why his O2 saturation was low. That's not entirely unreasonable, except for the part where there's no actual reason to believe that over trusting the medical professionals that blamed his Covid infection for it (to say nothing of subsequent research that turned up no actual evidence of heat stroke to begin with).

That, or he believes that "hypovolemia" means "low blood oxygen" and not "low blood volume," which also wouldn't surprise me.

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Vaccination rates seem to be trending upward again. Good news. Every shot in the arm can prevent another tragedy like this.

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Very slightly, but hopefully that gains steam (though as I said in another topic, each additional vaccine offers augmenting returns over the previous one in terms of public protection, so even small improvements are more significant than they seem). Meanwhile, the surge in daily cases isn't showing any signs of levelling off yet, and deaths are starting to creep up to match it.

As a side note, it looks like case and death numbers are consistently dramatically lower (like 80-90%) on weekends than weekdays. The most obvious explanation is that the folks in charge of tallying them up aren't working, but I would have figured an issue this significant would warrant bringing on extra staff to have 24/7 coverage. Weird.

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captpackrat posted...

That's amazing!

People will do as they please and that's fine by me as I give no fucks at this point.

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