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Okay I Need Some Convincing Version

Look, I get it. You see Kirby with a heart virus and an angry dragoon telling him his life ends in 30 seconds, you see a giant dragon supported by the worlds most lovable black mage, and then you look over and Ive got a goofy crocodile and a bird. This looks like a stupid fight. However, every single advantage, every intangible, works entirely in my favor. And those intangibles are K. Rool is the most dangerous man in this building, no shut up, he is, youre actually dead and oh man Kirby tho. KIRBY THO. This is A LOT, I want to cover every angle here. So please, do relax only check out the portions youre curious about or disagree with in the above, and enjoy.

Understanding Gruntildas Lair

https://i.redd.it/mz385ysvwsy41.jpg

Gruntys Lair is a sprawling system of small corridors with weird themed areas for each world. Its less a singular hub like Peachs Castle and more a system of smaller hubs that spiral up to the top, with a few branches here and there. The important thing to note is the starting locations: Kirby & Friends start in Dingpots Chamber, which is a small flight up to the very top of the lair. Team Vivi starts at the lairs mouth, connected directly to Spiral Mountain. The thing with this is, <i>The top of the lair is directly connected to Spiral Mountain</I>. Its a bit of a drop (as Grunty herself proved at the end of the game), but simply by jumping off the top of the lair, youll find your way to the bottom. Banjo is WELL versed in this, and knows very well that Kirbys time is short, so introducing the pink puffball (who has the Wing ability, mind you, making his ascent significantly faster) to the fastest route to the enemy to flank them is GONNA happen. Its also going to keep Kirby far, FAR away from his teammates when Estinien eventually lands which could very well be on Stone Kirby, as Stone is there to ensure that the little guy makes it to the ground with time to spare! And if anyone should try to get the same idea, fly up top? Well, its a damn long way to fall, Grunty taking a solid 20 seconds from fall to splat during her own tumble, and it likely takes longer to fall down than anyone could fly up! By that time, K. Rool and Banjo will be long gone, ready to hold up anywhere in the lair that theyd like in order to get a perfect stronghold.

Kirby

Kirbys improved a bit since the days of Super Star! Specifically, his showings in Forgotten Land are a MASSIVE step up! Please observe his battle with the final boss (who, surprisingly, has his True Arena form made canon, a first for the Kirby series!)

https://youtu.be/XKaGhrkkXd4

Keep in mind this is BASE FORM Kirby. He doesnt have any special powers for this fight, and here he is, taking on a cross-dimensional psychic being, enfused with the chaotic power lingering from Morpho Knight, a tiny butterfly who eats beings of incredible cosmic power and adds it to his own (you ever think about the little butterflies that follow Kirby around? Theyre trying to devour him. Hes too strong).Look on as Kirby is able to evade black holes, massive meteors, even a ball made of pure flame and hate (5:07), even a massive kaiju-sized stand with a spear the size of a skyscraper (2:10). Kirby can, of course, take these attacks, too - and that aint just gameplay talking! Kirbys been shown to take blows from foes like Meta Knight, who casually bats away cars wih a single sword swipe, survived massive explosions of energy against foes like Void Termina, and can generally take a bit of a walloping in spite of his tiny size!

So when I say hes gonna survive Estiniens massive drop? Yeah hes gonna be roughed up, but thats nothing he hasnt handled before! Its also very likely, in the fight timeline, that hes got Stone up, which yeah Stone just doesnt care about being hurt. Black holes, lasers, sword strikes that cleave reality-warping machines in twain, Stone just no-sells it. Im sure SOME damage would be taken in a mercs context, Im not about to argue i-frames forever, but I think it works out that Kirbys gonna avoid some damage - if he can react to a teleport right in his face, he can probably react to a jump given theyre outside and its a looooong fall to the base of Spiral Mountain.

Oh, and the little advantage of the Zenos form giving him some precognition, and it being his strongest form so hes probably gonna have it up. Yeah, no, hes got the tools to know the mans coming down.

This leaves an injured Kirby Vs Estinien, probably isolated from both teams (why would you go outside rather than going forward, especially when Gaels been provoked by some Tiger Shots and theres zero guarantee theres any entrance at the top?), as the most likely scenario for the Kirbster. And you might worry about Kirby, oh no, we dont like to see Kirbo hurt at all! Let me introduce you to the Morpho Knight Sword.

https://youtu.be/vmqbtf4r7uk

Forged from the remains of the dream eater himself, Morpho Knights sword isnt your average blade! You can see how fast it utterly SHREDS Kirbys regular foes, and this is in its weakest, unupgraded form! Its got incredibly fast strikes, can summon fire tornadoes, can grow in size to become a big-ass buster sword, controls the soul of the damned Fecto Forgo its eaten to track in on enemies (weird flex but it can do it!), but most important are two small features. One, it turns Kirbys dodge into a short-range teleport, wherein he is completely intangible, can attack right out of it, AND can spam it easily from point to point. And two, every single hit landed by the blade has lifesteal - if you dont catch Kirby as hes teleporting around you, hes constantly getting stronger. This is, by far, the most powerful form Kirby has ever had access to, and considering that he gets that cool time slow effect that Bayonetta and Link and all the cool action kids have whenever he dodges something, letting him get in a barrage of attacks too fast to react to? Yeah, no, I think hell be okay.

OH RIGHT AND HE ALSO COPIED ZENOS.

Now, I am not as qualified as my colleagues to argue Zenos. However, if Kirby ends up getting this guy off? Tidal waves, followed by lightning storms? Diamond dust freezing the ground around him, no bother for master ice skater Kirby, summoning an avatar who can also petrify during it? The combination of Swift as Shadow and Thorns, able to kill an endgame Warrior of Light in a single attack? All damage absolutely unavoidable in the center of it? Ripping lives directly from you? Estinien was one of those lives, I think, I havent played FFXIV but I think from secondhand osmosis I know you get a TON of souls ripped from you that belong to some friends! Bro hes only got one Estinien soul to give!

If ANYONE comes out to support Estinien in this outdoor fight thats a very bad decision! Whats Gael gonna do with non-functional legs, flail a crossbow out and then flop as hes swept away by the storm? Vivi does have reflect on him but then Kirbys got plenty of close combat to end his life with. Vtaras the one who is actually gonna contribute, but considering theyre probably struggling getting through the lair carefully (dont wanna bump into a bear, after all!), its probably gonna take them some time to get down!

KIRBY SOLOS? I dont think so, I think he more than survives to his expiration timer, but Im not sure he catches up to the rest of the enemy squad. But Estinien chose the wrong puffball to land on. At best, that man is going to be horrendously wounded. At worst, he calls his buddies in to a hopeless fight that he loses.