LogFAQs > #970960606

OK, so...just to organize my thoughts a little, here is what I see so far:

-Will Gael and friends wait for Estinien to land? Caution suggests it's a smart thing to wait for Vrtra, their man tank, to return, and time is on their side so they have reasons to camp. At the same time, though, being in position to assist Estinien when he comes down could turn this match from somewhat debatable into a total stomp.

-The distance from the top to the bottom of Grunty's lair isn't small. I mentioned that it'd take like 20 seconds to land on a freefall in the other topic and I stand by it. If Gael and friends are camping this means Kirby comes down on them and Estinien basically frags his entire team (bar maybe Gael), since I don't really trust them to tank a Dragonshadow Dive. Kirby might die off this or he might not. It's tough to say. Zenos mode helps him to avoid horrible death, but is it reliable enough to work? I don't know if Kirby ever inherits 'powerups' when he copies someone -- Zenos' resonance is not a natural ability of his but one that was artificially implanted. If I could get some confirmation on this point that'd be great.

-Estinien is an absolute beast. Kirby has lifesteal, but the issue is Estinien does too. His Nidhogg Combo which he uses when he gets serious against Arch-Ultima passively restores his health, and on top of that he has Horrid Roar. In XIV PvP, Horrid Roar is a lightly damaging attack that also happens to debuff the damage dealt by enemies in close proximity to the dragoon by 50%, with roughly a 40% uptime if you're consistent about keeping it up. It won't help vs K. Rool much, but Kirby is a different kettle of fish. All Estinien has to do is hang on until Kirby's time is up and then he has a very real chance of just bulldozing through Sagat and the dynamic duo.

-The argument for Banjo just kamikaze-bombing Vrtra is real. The question is, can Vrtra range him out until the Wonderwings run out? If he does, I think him and Estinien have a real chance of winning even if the rest of their team somehow dies.

-How good are Kirby's copying abilities these days? If K. Rool gets Garrus' guns as Kamek says he does he's an absolute menace that might unironically carry. If he gets 'garrus-y guns' instead of the genuine article that's a lot harder for me to buy into, though. Need some feats here.

Overall, a really interesting match. Need to think about it and hear more arguments for sure.