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Topic~FIGHT!~ Kirby,Sagat, K.Rool, B&K v Estinien, Vrtra, Gael, Vivi, Haurchefant
Kamekguy
01/20/23 1:58:09 PM
#46:


So to better sell this, I'd like to think that Gael is probably pissed off from Sagat shooting him in the face. I doubt he will be calm, and thus, I think his journey through the lair will be one where he's taking point. If that is the case, I absolutely think he's running into mines Kazooie's set up.

The main thing is that Sagat is always gonna be in front of Banjo until it's the bear's time to shine. As much as I'd love to argue that Vivi contributes something here... nah fam. K. Rool doesn't need to be a great shot, Vivi is a clumsy child who trips and falls over at the best of times. The moment that guy stops to cast a spell, he's getting filled with lead. I'd like to also emphasize that the Black Widow is not a single-shot sniper - it can shoot out three rounds in succession before needing more fuel. It's a VERY generous piece of tech that honestly gives Garrus a scary amount of wiggle room. With K Rool, I think (considering he is copying Kirby's ability to be Garrus, Kirbo naturally becomes skilled enough to use weapon, etc.) he can manage to shoot a child who's already paranoid about mines littered all over and Gael's probably tripped at least one for them to realize OH SHIT, MINES.

Sagat is just a solid wall and K Rool and Banjo hold a range advantage, Kazooie specifically having the Amaze-O-Gaze goggles to zoom in and act as a sniper's lens. This is coupled with all of her eggs having homing properties, and some of them (specifically grenade and ice) actually being rather useful! Clockwork Kazooie Eggs ensure that they'll know exactly when Team Gael is coming, and keep in mind, this is a group that is now paranoid because there have been mines all over, one of the rooms was just full of piranhas for no reason, there is an instant death bear just wandering around that this asshole bird has sent toward them - they're gonna be in rough shape. And all K Rool has to do is wait for a pair of beady yellow eyes to come out of one entrance, and it's over. Harche can't GET DOWN MR PRESIDENT faster than the future gun with superbullets, Gael is now at a huge disadvantage vs Sagat as Kazooie can camp at K Rool's safe distance and shoot eggs that'll freeze him in place for a second (they've frozen larger, such as this octopus: https://banjokazooie.fandom.com/wiki/Inky who Banjo is a bit smaller than the size of its head) and then Sagat shatters him.

And as for Kirbo, I think he deals more damage to Est than he manages to heal up, at the very least. Like, Kirby's reaching his timer and dying of old age, absolutely. At which point it's gonna take Estinien a loooong time to get through, possibly with more traps already set, Vrtra having to take things verrry carefully to avoid the RANDOM BEAR. Like, there is no way this fight isn't staggered into three separate encounters (Kirby Vs Est, Gael Vivi and Harche Vs Sagat Kazooie K Rool, Est and Vrtra Vs K Rool and Banjo/Sagat), and there's zero reason for Banjo to be put in harm's way. Even if a wonderwing is necessary once, it's easy to turn on and off on command, burning through 4 seconds to avoid one of Vivi's spells isn't going to cost him, he's gonna land his corpse on Vrtra in 36 seconds as well as he would 40. He's hit Grunty mid-flight on her broomstick before with the Beak Bomb, and while Grunty was just cruisin', she was also in the open air and is a MUCH smaller target than big dragon!

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