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Topic~FIGHT!~ Tingle/Eunie/Trevor & Sypha/Crono/Aigis vs. Raiden/Pamela/Gordon
Chaeix
03/09/23 11:23:56 PM
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The Terrain - The Resource Center - The resource center isn't actually a terrible terrain for me. I want to underscore both literally and figuratively that Tingle has a map of the terrain, and Trevor is a brilliant tactician. My team will know that its strength is medium range fighting and kiting, and will look for the largest part of the terrain, which is the library at this timestamp, which is where Gordon and Raiden must enter from: https://youtu.be/ZOe2AooOeqg?t=885

Beyond that narrow hallway is a vast library with large open spaces which are perfect for flying around in, bouncing off or running up the walls, etc. All of Aigis, Eunie, Trevor, Sypha, and Tingles' Strengths. Crono's there for spamming Luminaire, Revives, and cheering. He knows not to get caught in the Crossfire. Gordon and Raiden will take a while to reach the room which will allow my team to prepare. Most importantly, Aigis can track the enemy team passively as she displayed in P4U when she took down hijackers on a plane. She can still detect Gordon and Raiden coming so my team will have the advantage and will be able to prepare. More on that later.

Anyways on to the specifics of the match.

  1. My team has been hit by Limitless Resurrection - which I argue gives them the combined effect of two autorevives. At the very least, I think one should be arguable. Any less would be feelsbad and imo against the spirit of the ability. Or, alternatively, you could take it literally and have it be limitless. That'd be rad. Go for it. Let there be life! Anyways this is amazing because every single time someone on my team dies, they effectively get a free attack on Raiden. Or they can help revive. Etc.
  2. Pamela has been suplex'd and starts on her back beside my team. Sypha likely starts by freezing Pamela in place - she's going to win in a quickdraw because she's a speedy lady. This allows my team to start wailing on her, and those who aren't using magic/ether to switch over to something magic-based. Honestly Crono probably just starts with Luminaire because everyone else is already doing things and he doesn't want to get in the way. He's a helpful lad. It helps that Trevor and Sypha are naturally good against the undead - I think that Trevor is canonically strong against Undead resistances and is able to damage Pamela which she won't be expecting. She dies once. Then she revives, and she dies twice. This match is Gordon and Raiden vs Aigis, Eunie, Sypha, Trevor, Crono, and Tingle.
Now let's get into the gameplan in the library.

Ouroboros Taion is pivotal to my team's strategy. See: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN3nLv-rNus&t=46s

For general Eunie/Taion Ouroboros feats, please make sure to watch a couple minutes of (it may be underwhelming if you stop too early) this clip: https://youtu.be/-ktKIEt3xV0?t=203

For how long Ouroboros lasts, it lasts visibly longer in cutscenes than in gameplay so I think that trumps? I'll argue it at least. No point in not doing it. So it lasts at least a few minutes, which is incredibly helpful because Ouroboros is invuln.

When Gordon and Raiden enter the library, my team is at a distance. Aigis and Eunie have dropped their buffs as recently as they can before Eunie uses her Ouroboros, quickly spamming a few feather dances (gives my team random buffs) and getting my team even more fully buffed before Taion runs interference. He uses clones to distract and confuse Raiden while Gordon is taken out. Gordon is effectively irrelevant here because Sypha will have set up devastating ice traps and his head is completely vulnerable. To give an example of the kind of set-up she's done before (and general badassery), see: https://youtu.be/L_9JyGfPlS8?t=63

For those who didn't watch, she sets up ice shards and at the right time just *mutilates* a creature flying at her. And with *precision*. She honestly likely does some damage to Raiden with that kind of cutting power (and being magical ice and all).

Trevor is also actually extremely useful here. Trevor's whip is strong enough to make Death recoil (though I will give room for that being a Castlevania type matchup kinda thing). If Raiden can't close the gap on Trevor, which is somewhat difficult given his circumstances, he's making it extremely difficult for Raiden to do anything. He's being constantly peppered while trying to attack, and Trevor has excellent kiting range. He also has Time Stop which stops time for honestly I couldn't find exactly how many seconds, but at least a few. That's a MASSIVE advantage against Raiden. Even if he kills Trevor, he revives and then catches Raiden completely by surprise. He'll be exposed to more damage.

When Eunie and Taion run out of Ouroboros, Eunie is actually fairly helpful. She can pop down a healing and buff ring and allow people to duck in and out. She has Thunder Steel, a medium range (10m) cone ether attack that inflicts Bind and does extra damage to machines so I think it's particularly prone to working on Raiden. Shockwave which is a 10m knockback AoE that can knock back large bosses so there's a chance it might catch Raiden off guard if he's distracted in particular. She also has Shield Wall so if she catches aggro, she has a specific skill that blocks all damage, reactions, etc. for a few seconds. A few seconds is all literally anyone else on my team needs to be able to catch Raiden off guard once again. And if Eunie is caught, she can just Ouroboros again and go full aggro on Raiden and catch him by surprise. I also think that if voters give credence to Combos here, Raiden being knocked down by someone could allow her to use Myopic Screen and Daze (briefly stun) Raiden.

For additional Crowd Control measures, Sypha has a spell that is a cloud of smoke that inflicts Petrify if it hits (from PoR). That's incredibly useful especially at the beginning of the fight when Gordon is dead and Raiden is first entering the library through the hallway.

Tingle somehow also helps because he just floats around dropping bombs! Even tingle bombs are still explosives! Hyrule Warriors Tingle doesn't fuck around.

Aigis will realize quickly that Raiden won't be susceptible to physical moves (given her game is literally about figuring that out) and will jump around and spam Freidyne and continuously debuff him. Remember friends, Raiden's defense is debuffed. When she dies, she spams more Freidyne (nuclear magic) and revives some more. I think that Raiden would be somewhat susceptible to Freidyne.

Anyways the tl;dr here is that Pamela starts next to my team, so it is Gordon and Raiden. Gordon dies immediately in an ambush that features Ouroboros clones so my team can take advantage of Raiden's confusion. My team is a team of medium range fighters and skirmishers in a large library that they are all perfectly at home fighting in and around. They all have at least 2 lives, and Raiden doesn't know this. Raiden is durable, but he can't deal with a sustained beatdown. Once Armstrong gets a hold of Raiden, his problem was he stopped. My team won't stop, and should be able to take him down given their CC, sustain, revive loops, and medium range fighting style. Eunie should be able to get multiple Ouroboroses off with being revived, which is really problematic for Raiden either way.

For more general Trevor and Sypha just because they're rad, please see the following:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3DzNzuw1Aw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8s6pu6QvkxY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59XsZ1CKNbI

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