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Topic~FIGHT!~ Bowser/DK/Diddy & Dixie/Sonic vs. Cyberdemon/Zagreus/B. J./Samus
AriaOfBolo
03/10/23 6:39:02 PM
#5:


First I want to talk about Mewtwo.
-In RBY, he was created by scientists, hated it, and nuked the whole operation.
-In the anime, Mewtwo was created by *Team Rocket* scientists, and forced to wear a restraining power suit. He hated it and there is a whole movie of him picking a fight with humanity to prove the superiority of Pokemon. He was willing to manipulate other Pokemon to that end.
-In Pokken, he's been captured and is being corrupted.
-In Mercs, his dislike of humans is referenced in an upgrade ability.
He is "behaving according to his personality" here, in this fight of three monkeys, a spicy but scared turtle, and a hedgehog, against a demi-human with god powers, a lady in a power suit, and a guy with guns. I'll argue without him as a factor (I can respect an argument that he'd just heck off somewhere he can be left alone) but I really think he's going to be attacking Eddv's team anyway. I don't think he'll COORIDNATE with us, but I think he'll be on our side if anything.

You may have noticed that Cyberdemon wasn't mentioned there, and that's because I'm pretty sure he's freakin' dead at jump. He's mercs-magic-defenseless for one second AND prone, in the middle of my team and specifically right in front of Bowser and Diddy. Maybe Cyberdemon could shake off Bowser from prone while Diddy is clawing his eyes out, but not in time to be ready for DK and Sonic (and Dixie) on top of that. I'll be charitable and say he takes Diddy down with him, but I really don't see him getting off a hit.

Castle Wolfenstein seems to have a large exterior- I'm assuming Eddv's going to argue the hallways as cramping my big bois, but I'm not seeing a great reason I can't just attack from the outside instead of playing that game. DK's huge, Sonic's super fast, and everybody else has limited flight- I don't think we are that bothered by a mountain. If we do go inside, there are large spaces too that should actually favor DK and Bowser, and if all else fails there's the ol' Kool-Aid Man shtick.

For the battle proper, I think both teams want to be defensive- they're specced for range, and we're preferring to stick to more open areas for DK and Bowser. We probably aren't going to win a shootout, but don't write us off just yet. Bowser's got a surprisingly good kit for backline (read: away from BJ) support, including AOE Poison and Fear (halves offense AND defense) from SMRPG, minion attacks, and the ol' fire breath. Dixie....is a warm body, but every little advantage helps.

If you're reading this part I ran out of time and/or steam but I'd like to highlight:
-Sonic gets a lot from Frontiers, including actual defense parameters to not get 2-hit by everything, and a lot of new moves I haven't adequately researched yet
-DK has his Jungle Beat stuff that is good anti-projectile, and the 400% includes speed. Small hallways will slow him down, but not stop him, see also the Iwatodai fight. ....Actually, is there a reason we can't just demo the building like we were argued to there?
-Bowser has a good support kit and a durable body to use it (and, y'know, he's pretty dangerous if he actually gets to melee)
-If they're shooting Dixie they're not shooting my threats
-Zag: I think both Bow and Shield are better for crowd control than a small number of large threats as seen here. I don't think he gets the Rail Gun because of K Rool but I'm writing this before I've seen the writeup. I don't think he wants to try to tank with that setup and this opposition, but if he doesn't, who will? Aphrodite debuff hurts but doesn't last very long.

I think it's a debatable match if Mewtwo doesn't turn up. I think DK can hang with Samus, Bowser+Dixie can keep Zagreus busy, and Sonic can handle BJ in the time it would take the other two to resolve. Now, if Mewtwo DOES go after the human(oid)s, that's for sure gonna be too much for em, but I think it's winnable even in the worst case.

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