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Topic	Do you think Hawley might go for president after hanging in the Senate for a bit
Doom_Art 02/02/24 3:16:38 PM #25:	TurtleInFreedom posted... Most of those governors you've mentioned are too far left in the perception of the public to be able to win some of the swing states. Ah yes, noted safe blue states like Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Georgia. TurtleInFreedom posted... Some of the older governors there don't have that much of a presense in national politics yet No one knew who Barack Obama was in early 2004. TurtleInFreedom posted... Ossoff is 36, Americans aren't going to try a 40 year old for president. The country that fans itself over young/handsome politicians like JFK, Clinton, and Obama would certainly vote for a 40 year old incumbent senator. TurtleInFreedom posted... As for foreign policy, if the next presidential candidate doesn't understand the dynamics of the developing nations in the Indo-Pacific, Biden's IRA will have been for nothing. Ossoff was the junior senator who went around the Pacific trying to lay ground for the IRA and the CHIPS act. Okay and that's nice but voters aren't going to care about Indo-Pacific geopolitical dynamics. That's just not a thing most people base their vote on. TurtleInFreedom posted... Overall, sure, the people you've listed might be good from the perspective of the party, but in the general it's a different question. You didn't really answer the question. You just restated your original point and said vagaries like "too left" TurtleInFreedom posted... Why do you think they would do good in the general, if that's what you're asserting? Each of the candidates I listed has either demonstrated the capability of winning elections in swing states or regions where Democrats need to win. In the case of Newsom and Pritzker, even though they're from pretty solidly blue states, they've demonstrated the ability to utilize their respective majorities extremely effectively and communicate their policies to a national audience. --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 http://i.imgur.com/mPvcy.png <cite>Doom_Art posted [p:978617326] in Do you thi... [t:80686086]...</cite> <quote>TurtleInFreedom posted... </cite><quote>Most of those governors you've mentioned are too far left in the perception of the public to be able to win some of the swing states.</quote>Ah yes, noted safe blue states like Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Georgia.TurtleInFreedom posted... </cite><quote>Some of the older governors there don't have that much of a presense in national politics yet</quote>No one knew who Barack Obama was in early 2004.TurtleInFreedom posted... </cite><quote>Ossoff is 36, Americans aren't going to try a 40 year old for president.</quote>The country that fans itself over young/handsome politicians like JFK, Clinton, and Obama would certainly vote for a 40 year old incumbent senator.TurtleInFreedom posted... </cite><quote>As for foreign policy, if the next presidential candidate doesn't understand the dynamics of the developing nations in the Indo-Pacific, Biden's IRA will have been for nothing. Ossoff was the junior senator who went around the Pacific trying to lay ground for the IRA and the CHIPS act.</quote>Okay and that's nice but voters aren't going to care about Indo-Pacific geopolitical dynamics. That's just not a thing most people base their vote on.TurtleInFreedom posted... </cite><quote>Overall, sure, the people you've listed might be good from the perspective of the party, but in the general it's a different question.</quote>You didn't really answer the question. You just restated your original point and said vagaries like "too left"TurtleInFreedom posted... </cite><quote>Why do you think they would do good in the general, if that's what you're asserting?</quote>Each of the candidates I listed has either demonstrated the capability of winning elections in swing states or regions where Democrats need to win. In the case of Newsom and Pritzker, even though they're from pretty solidly blue states, they've demonstrated the ability to utilize their respective majorities extremely effectively and communicate their policies to a national audience. --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009http://i.imgur.com/mPvcy.png</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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