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creativerealms posted...

Yet you are still falling for conservative propaganda that's easy to debunk. Biden is not doing worse with our borders then past presidents, Border Patrol under Biden isn't just letting people in, we do not have open borders.

There are more people coming to the southern border and that isn't Biden's fault, and everyone is being turned away. Democrats gave Republicans everything they wanted in the latest border bill and they killed it because Trump wants to run on immigration.

And I haven't insulted you once.

You can't talk about propaganda and then spread your own misinformation. Most of what you said is incorrect. Here are the actual numbers.

For illegal gotaways who bypassed border patrol. The numbers are directly from the federal government.

2021 - 400k-600k
2022 - 600k
2023 - 860k

For reference, 2019 was 150k and 2020 was 135k

https://www.oig.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/assets/2023-05/OIG-23-24-May23.pdf

https://www.cbo.gov/system/files/2024-01/59697-Demographic-Outlook.pdf

https://www.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/2022-06/2022_0427_plcy_border_security_metrics_report_FY2021_%282020_data%29.pdf

For asylum seekers, the CBP website tells us exactly how many are let in and the majority of them are not being turned away. This is all in addition to the gotaways.

Oct 2023 - 240k border encounters/180k released into the US to await their hearing.
November 2023 - 240k border encounters/185k released into the US to await their hearing.
December 2023 - 300k border encounters/250k released into the US to await their hearing.

Overall, between illegal gotaways, asylum seekers and visa overstays, 3.3 million people came into the US in 2023 alone. 2.9 of that was at the southern border. This is in addition to about 1.5 million legal immigrants.

https://www.cbo.gov/system/files/2024-01/59697-Demographic-Outlook.pdf

As for Biden's actions, no other president has let so many people in before. This can also be double checked on the CBP website.

https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats

You can look at the before and after into Biden's start. Trump was releasing a couple of dozen people monthly because these releases are to be used sparingly for extenuating circumstances. That jumped to 1.5k in January 2021, 9k in February, 26k for March, 28k for April, 30k for May, 42k for June and 70k for July. These numbers peaked at 250k by December 2023 and most of the time we had Title 42. Had we not, it would have been way worse.

Biden also got rid of Remain in Mexico. By doing that, especially before increasing the 34k beds for holding, Biden had to release them into the US to wait for their hearing, with almost zero financial support from the federal government, pushing almost the entire burden on localities. Even then, the new bill was only going to increase holding to 50k. That's like a week or two worth of people.