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Topic	Due to Israeli-Palestinian ceasefire... Israel bombs Iranian consulate in Syria
adjl 04/05/24 8:33:30 AM #43:	Devil_May_Cry posted... There could be weapons in the crates. Next time I'm in the grocery store, maybe I should camp out in the cereal aisle and shoot anyone that reaches for a box. There might be weapons in those boxes, after all. You can't be too careful. Humanitarian aid drops don't fall out of the sky without warning. There's extensive notice that they're coming, allowing the victims to receive them and - specifically relevant to this situation - to prevent the aggressor from shooting them down or shooting at victims trying to claim them. There's no room to frame this as though a bunch of mystery boxes appeared out of nowhere without documentation. Heck, I have more reason to be concerned that a random cereal box on a shelf contains weaponry than Israel has to be concerned about those aid drops, because I have less access to supply chain data than they do. Devil_May_Cry posted... I pray every day the proof is uncovered to redeem Israel on the global stage. "Everything about this situation makes them look like the worse guys, but they're my favourite so I keep hoping that something happens to make them look better." That's not how evaluating situations works. Look at the evidence, form your opinion based on that. Deciding on an opinion, then looking for evidence to support it and ignoring evidence that suggests you're wrong is just confirmation bias taken to the extreme. Devil_May_Cry posted... He is supporting the more moral side in a f*ing war "More moral" by what metrics? Devil_May_Cry posted... until then I am asking consideration for the feelings of Israeli visitors to this site who may be experiencing heart break seeing their favorite posters attack their country Their country is an apartheid state engaging in genocide. I'm more concerned about the feelings of the oppressed people that state is openly murdering than about the feelings of people that are having to deal with any nationalistic pride they had being horribly misplaced. Once again, this does not mean attacking Israeli citizens for the actions of their government, but attacking Israel on a political scale is absolutely fair game. We've justified this extensively, you've hand-waved every justification and vaguely whined about "feelings" as though anyone in their right mind is ever going to say "well, I guess we should let Israel commit genocide because some Israeli people might be sad if we're too critical of that." --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. <cite>adjl posted [p:979743485] in Due to Isr... [t:80736729]...</cite> <quote>Devil_May_Cry posted... </cite><quote>There could be weapons in the crates.</quote>Next time I'm in the grocery store, maybe I should camp out in the cereal aisle and shoot anyone that reaches for a box. There might be weapons in those boxes, after all. You can't be too careful.Humanitarian aid drops don't fall out of the sky without warning. There's extensive notice that they're coming, allowing the victims to receive them and - specifically relevant to this situation - to prevent the aggressor from shooting them down or shooting at victims trying to claim them. There's no room to frame this as though a bunch of mystery boxes appeared out of nowhere without documentation. Heck, I have more reason to be concerned that a random cereal box on a shelf contains weaponry than Israel has to be concerned about those aid drops, because I have less access to supply chain data than they do.Devil_May_Cry posted... </cite><quote>I pray every day the proof is uncovered to redeem Israel on the global stage.</quote>"Everything about this situation makes them look like the worse guys, but they're my favourite so I keep hoping that something happens to make them look better."That's not how evaluating situations works. Look at the evidence, form your opinion based on that. Deciding on an opinion, then looking for evidence to support it and ignoring evidence that suggests you're wrong is just confirmation bias taken to the extreme.Devil_May_Cry posted... </cite><quote>He is supporting the more moral side in a f*ing war</quote>"More moral" by what metrics?Devil_May_Cry posted... </cite><quote>until then I am asking consideration for the feelings of Israeli visitors to this site who may be experiencing heart break seeing their favorite posters attack their country</quote>Their country is an apartheid state engaging in genocide. I'm more concerned about the feelings of the oppressed people that state is openly murdering than about the feelings of people that are having to deal with any nationalistic pride they had being horribly misplaced. Once again, this does not mean attacking Israeli citizens for the actions of their government, but attacking Israel on a political scale is absolutely fair game. We've justified this extensively, you've hand-waved every justification and vaguely whined about "feelings" as though anyone in their right mind is ever going to say "well, I guess we should let Israel commit genocide because some Israeli people might be sad if we're too critical of that." --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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