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TopicFFVII Rebirth SPOILERS AHOY
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04/07/24 10:46:54 PM
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foolm0r0n posted...
Just finished. The timeline stuff was weird but I think it ended up pretty straightforward by the end. The lifestream is a multiverse that only Aerith, Zack, Cloud, Seph can traverse.

Maybe. I don't think too hard about this stuff because I know it'll probably disappoint in the end anyway. Regardless, I definitely don't buy the whole "Aerith at the end is just Cloud being delusional" idea. It's either an AU Aerith or it's somehow Remake/Rebirth Aerith in a pocket universe or something.

I don't fully get where/what Sephiroth actually exists in this game though. The final fight is him, but every other time is just Cloud being puppeted? Or sometimes it's a random zombie guy like when he stabbed Tseng?

Yeah this has always been confusing even in the OG. I think the "endgame" Sephiroth battles (in both Remake and Rebirth) are what I'm calling "lifestream Sephiroth." This is also the figure that Tifa sees in Chapter 8. In game there's presumably also a Sephiroth that is controlling all the robed figures and is currently chilling in the Northern Crater.

Also everything about the black materia confuses me. Everyone spent that whole time going through the temple and fighting for it, and then they decide to just put it back because it's not that important? Why the F did Aerith say it was fake? Why did they just toss it around like a toy?And kept letting Cloud get ahold of it even though it obviously was making him psycho for the last 3 chapters?

Aerith said it was fake to try and get Cloud to stop being weird about it. They tossed it around like a toy and escaped the Temple because it's a trope. The party at this point is both 1) scared of Cloud and also 2) trusts Cloud very much despite his craziness. They also presumably "need" him for his Leet Soldier skills. Yeah, I know, pretty flimsy but I'll roll with it since it's basically what happens in the original.

And finally I don't get Seph's motivation at all. He didn't actually try to get the black or white materias for himself. Why did he need to kill Aerith? What about the alternate dimension Aerith who survived?

Maybe more later, but also there's a line right after Aerith beefs it about despair being the thing that really causes the worlds to merge. Lifestream Sephy is all about eliminating all other possibilities besides the one where he wins. Killing Aerith was apparently the thing that gets him there. Seph is aware of alternate dimension Aerith (he "underestimated her") so presumably he flew off at the end to do some planning. He doesn't try to get the black materia because that's what Cloud is for.

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